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Ya, pero es que la alternativa era vaciar los bolsillos de depositantes de varios países europeos y de paso quebrar la banca griega.
He estado viendo las reformas griegas y la de mayor importe es un subidón del IVA mediante una dura reclasificación de bienes y servicios pasando casi todo al 23%; y EN España el IVA representa el 50% de los 50MM en exenciones y devoluciones de todo el sistema fiscal así que veremos algo parecido , me temo.Luego aprietan en sociedades y en deducciones y exenciones del IRPF. Es curioso que no hayan tirado por el camino húngaro del TPV conectado a Hacienda porque con eso se puede reducir una gran parte del fraude en IVA e IRPF de actividades económicas .
Cita de: Republik en Mayo 08, 2016, 22:00:21 pmYa, pero es que la alternativa era vaciar los bolsillos de depositantes de varios países europeos y de paso quebrar la banca griega. Pero Republik, si precisamente fue exactamente eso lo que hicieron.Al final del "pase griego", los bancos FR+DE han sido rescatados con el dinero de los contribuyentes... franceses y alemanes.Sólo que en lugar de tirar abajo sus gobernantes, a los Franceses y Alemanes, les mandaron a ladrar contra los GriegosEs decir un bail-out indirecto.A los Griegos, se les habría rescatado igual, con un bail-in de bancos griegos Y bancos franceses, Y bancos alemanes. Es como el debate sobre los Hombres de negro con España, que por qué llevan esperando 6 años.Si llevan esperando es para que España devuelva solita lo esencial de sus deudas a los bancos FR y DE. De forma que la restructuración de la deuda española, corra a costa de los bancos o contribuyentes españoles. Sea por bail-in o restructuración interna, o lo que les dará la gana. Pero sin poner a contribución los demás contribuyentes europeos.
Cita de: saturno en Mayo 09, 2016, 18:23:08 pmCita de: Republik en Mayo 08, 2016, 22:00:21 pmYa, pero es que la alternativa era vaciar los bolsillos de depositantes de varios países europeos y de paso quebrar la banca griega. Pero Republik, si precisamente fue exactamente eso lo que hicieron.Al final del "pase griego", los bancos FR+DE han sido rescatados con el dinero de los contribuyentes... franceses y alemanes.Sólo que en lugar de tirar abajo sus gobernantes, a los Franceses y Alemanes, les mandaron a ladrar contra los GriegosEs decir un bail-out indirecto.A los Griegos, se les habría rescatado igual, con un bail-in de bancos griegos Y bancos franceses, Y bancos alemanes. Es como el debate sobre los Hombres de negro con España, que por qué llevan esperando 6 años.Si llevan esperando es para que España devuelva solita lo esencial de sus deudas a los bancos FR y DE. De forma que la restructuración de la deuda española, corra a costa de los bancos o contribuyentes españoles. Sea por bail-in o restructuración interna, o lo que les dará la gana. Pero sin poner a contribución los demás contribuyentes europeos.Ya . Si el problema de fondo es la preferencia de los europeos por el ahorro "seguro"en forma de depósitos Esto por el otro lado del balance es imposible de mantener de modo realista con lo que se descalzan no solamente plazos sino también riesgos : la banca europea tiene mucho producto de pasivo supuestamente "sólido" y se ve forzada (sobre todo las germana y gala así como los grandes sectores aseguradores de estos países) a prestar con riesgo haciendo como que no hay tal : de ahí su suicida exposición a la deuda griega , que visto el historial del país (sale de su último impago en 1962) esta claro que es un producto del que huir (los griegos ricos no tienen ni un euro en deuda de su país).La reforma de la banca europea tendrá que consistir en algo así como crear depósitos con calificación de riesgo y prima en tipos y luego una especie de "mierdepósitos " de rentabilidad negativa que serían cómo los de.la banca cantonal suiza , pura custodia y no dinero para prestar .Es.una tara europea o quizá la pervivencia de una cierta autoestima y exigencia ciudadana : en USA se ha "educado" a la población en que hay que invertir en productos finacieros y no en depósitos ("el dinero no da nada y la bolsa un 7% anual", es el mantra americano).
Esto sí que dará votos a quedarse en la UE jijihttp://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/may/08/brexit-hit-house-prices-significantly-george-osborne-eu-referendum
Brexit risks '25pc house price crash' but Fitch warns remain vote will not resolve EU tensions
House prices could crash by 25pc and the pound drop by a third if the UK leaves the EU, according to Fitch, which warned that social tensions risked boiling over even if Britain stays in the bloc.The rating agency said a messy exit characterised by "rancorous and protracted" trade negotiations would fuel market turbulence and risk "permanent damage" to the UK's financial sector.Brexit could 'shift centre of gravity in EU'Under this scenario, the value of sterling would drop by 30pc against a basket of other currencies by the end of 2016, pushing retail failures to levels not seen since the 2008 financial crisis and hitting UK landlords through a clampdown in immigration.However, Fitch warned that a vote to stay in the bloc would also lead to unrest, as it predicted that net EU migration would remain elevated for years to come."Net EU migration to UK would remain high [if the UK votes to stay in the EU], with the resulting social tensions and core discontent with the EU ultimately unresolved," Fitch said in a report.It also warned that leaving the EU could shift "the centre of gravity of the EU" towards "more protectionist and less economically liberal" policies.It described a vote to leave as a "dangerous precedent" that would weaken the cohesion of the entire bloc.If Britain thrived, this could encourage mainstream political parties in countries such as Sweden and Denmark to advocate an exit, Fitch said.These Scandinavian countries, which have traditionally aligned themselves with the UK on issues such as globalisation, were unlikely to welcome a "shift" towards protectionism."The Netherlands might [also] not welcome such shifts," it said.'Unfavourable' or no EU deal could trigger chaosFitch warned that fractious negotiations between the UK and EU after a Brexit vote would weigh on growth, push down the pound and push up inflation.Mark Carney, the Governor of the Bank of England, warned last week that a Brexit could lead to a "materially lower path for growth and a notably higher path for inflation".Mr Carney said policymakers could raise or cut interest rates depending on the state of the economy.Fitch said the Bank would most likely be forced to increase rates to more than 3pc by 2019, following a period of looser monetary policy to offset big a fall in demand.Lower growth and higher interest rates could trigger a sharp fall in house prices.London, which would be "disproportionately affected by the loss of financial services business and high-wage jobs", would be most vulnerable to house price falls, it said."Fitch estimates that UK house prices are currently up to 25pc above 'sustainable' levels in relation to disposable income."This scenario could result in near-term price declines that result in house prices falling towards their sustainable level." Landlords would also be hit by a reduction in net EU migration, which could fall "close to zero" if Britain opted for tighter controls.It said official figures showed immigrants are "three times more likely to rent than UK nationals"."Much tighter controls on immigration could affect the buy-to-let sector in particular ... with longer void periods between tenancies and possibly reduced monthly rental income."The rating agency said that, while exporters were likely to benefit from a fall in the value of the pound, airlines could suffer a "significant" negative impact as "over 40pc of their costs are in dollars and a large share of their debt is also dollar denominated".Retail sector failures could "multiply" it added, reaching levels "similar to those in 2008-2009".While large retailers were expected to adjust to the weaker pound by sourcing goods from cheaper locations, it said: "Failures could increase among independent retailers due to their relative lack of bargaining power and extremely competitive trading conditions."'Favourable' EU deal would leave migration elevatedFitch said a "favourable" deal with the EU would limit the amount of market turbulence and could even result in "some restrictions on free movement of labour".However, this would be offset by "loss of control over future changes in regulation" that would "increase the risk of the UK having to adopt EU regulation that is harmful for business", it said.The rating agency added that net EU migration would fall over the medium term but "remain above" the Government's target of 100,000 a year.Global banks such as HSBC and Barclays would increase their presence in the EU to reduce costs and maintain business relationships in the bloc, Fitch said.However, it suggested that fears of a mass exodus of financial services to the EU if Britain secured favourable exit terms were exaggerated.EU countries also hit hard by a BrexitFitch said Ireland, Malta, Belgium, the Netherlands, Cyprus and Luxembourg were the countries most exposed to the UK economy, and would be hardest hit by a Brexit.All of these countries export goods and services to the UK worth at least 8pc of gross domestic product (GDP).Economists at ING also calculated that a Brexit would deal an economic blow to the eurozone.
Italia dobla las ayudas a la maternidad. Una ministra describe el panorama demográfico italiano como apocalíptico http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36297177
The EU will isolate and use sanctions against any far-right or populist governments that are swept to power or presidential office on the wave of popular anger against migration.Jean-Claude Juncker, president of the European Commission, made clear at the weekend that Norbert Hofer would have been frozen out of EU decision-making if he had been elected president of Austria. “There is no debate or dialogue with the far-right,” Mr Juncker said.Under powers given to the commission in 2014, he can trigger a “rule of law mechanism” for countries that depart from democratic norms by putting a government under constitutional supervision. Ultimately, a country can be stripped of voting rights in the EU or have funding blocked.In a test run for the new EU constitutional powers, the commission has issued unprecedented orders to Poland, instructing the newly elected right-wing government to bow to Polish judges who have struck down laws passed by the parliament.Mr Hofer had alarmed the EU by threatening to politicise the office of Austrian president by wielding powers, never used before, to trigger national elections at a moment most favourable for the far-right Freedom party (FPO). “You’ll be surprised at all the things that are possible,” he said before the vote. Though he lost narrowly, Austria witnessed the biggest far-right surge in Europe since the Second World War.The FPO is the largest party after the collapse of the Social Democrats (SPO) and People’s party (OVP), the centre-right and centre-left parties that have ruled Austria between them since 1945.Mr Hofer repeatedly threatened to use presidential powers to dissolve the current SPO-OVP coalition government, which is racked by turmoil.He said in a newspaper interview in March that, as president, he would dismiss the government if it did not stop the influx of refugees, 90,000 of whom reached Austria last year, and if it failed to alter its economic policies.Mr Hofer carries an Austrian-made Glock 9mm pistol because, he explains, of “uncertainty” caused by Muslim immigration. The FPO deputy leader is regarded as more moderate than Heinz-Christian Strache, the party’s firebrand figurehead, but his views are every bit as radical. In beer hall speeches he has railed about the “invasion of the Muslims”.Mr Hofer has warned that not all the refugees who have come to Austria are friendly and that some “are prepared to cut off another person’s head”.The EU faces the rise of other far-right parties, including the National Front in France and Geert Wilders’s Freedom party in the Netherlands.The deadline passed yesterday for Poland to back down in the government’s confrontation with the constitutional court. In January Frans Timmermans, the European Commission’s “first vice-president” in charge of humans rights, announced that he was triggering, for the first time, the EU’s “rule of law mechanism” over Poland.Talks have remained deadlocked since then as Beata Szydlo, the Polish prime minister whose Law and Justice party is affiliated to the British Tories, has grown increasingly enraged at lectures from Brussels.The row began when President Duda of Poland, who is allied to the Law and Justice party, refused to swear in three constitutional court judges. Then, in March, the constitutional court struck down a law rushed through parliament restricting the powers of the judiciary over the Polish government. The government ignored the ruling, provoking street protests and condemnation in Brussels, with the looming threat of an explicit EU diktat to Poland instructing the country’s parliament to back down.Hungary, which has also been criticised by the commission over constitutional questions, has pledged to fight alongside Poland to defend parliamentary sovereignty.The EU’s determination to head off and to keep in check far-right and populist governments could backfire. Witold Waszczykowski, the Polish foreign minister, said that the new powers went beyond the terms of the EU that his country joined in 2004. “This is not the union, not the kind of membership that we have agreed to,” he said.