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https://techcrunch.com/2025/01/08/elon-musk-agrees-that-weve-exhausted-ai-training-data/CitarElon Musk concurs with other AI experts that there’s little real-world data left to train AI models on.“We’ve now exhausted basically the cumulative sum of human knowledge … in AI training,” Musk said during a livestreamed conversation with Stagwell chairman Mark Penn on X late Wednesday. “That happened basically last year.”Musk, who owns AI company xAI, echoed themes former OpenAI chief scientist Ilya Sutskever touched on at NeurIPS, the machine learning conference, during an address in December. Sutskever, who said the AI industry had reached what he called “peak data,” predicted a lack of training data will force a shift away from the way models are developed today.Indeed, Musk suggested that synthetic data — data generated by AI models themselves — is the path forward. “The only way to supplement [real-world data] is with synthetic data, where the AI creates [training data],” he said. “With synthetic data … [AI] will sort of grade itself and go through this process of self-learning.”Other companies, including tech giants like Microsoft, Meta, OpenAI, and Anthropic, are already using synthetic data to train flagship AI models. Gartner estimates 60% of the data used for AI and analytics projects in 2024 were synthetically generated.Microsoft’s Phi-4, which was open sourced early Wednesday, was trained on synthetic data alongside real-world data. So were Google’s Gemma models. Anthropic used some synthetic data to develop one of its most performant systems, Claude 3.5 Sonnet. And Meta fine-tuned its most recent Llama series of models using AI-generated data.Training on synthetic data has other advantages, like cost savings. AI startup Writer claims its Palmyra X 004 model, which was developed using almost entirely synthetic sources, cost just $700,000 to develop — compared to estimates of $4.6 million for a comparably sized OpenAI model.But there as disadvantages as well. Some research suggests that synthetic data can lead to model collapse, where a model becomes less “creative” — and more biased — in its outputs, eventually seriously compromising its functionality. Because models create synthetic data, if the data used to train these models has biases and limitations, their outputs will be similarly tainted.
Elon Musk concurs with other AI experts that there’s little real-world data left to train AI models on.“We’ve now exhausted basically the cumulative sum of human knowledge … in AI training,” Musk said during a livestreamed conversation with Stagwell chairman Mark Penn on X late Wednesday. “That happened basically last year.”Musk, who owns AI company xAI, echoed themes former OpenAI chief scientist Ilya Sutskever touched on at NeurIPS, the machine learning conference, during an address in December. Sutskever, who said the AI industry had reached what he called “peak data,” predicted a lack of training data will force a shift away from the way models are developed today.Indeed, Musk suggested that synthetic data — data generated by AI models themselves — is the path forward. “The only way to supplement [real-world data] is with synthetic data, where the AI creates [training data],” he said. “With synthetic data … [AI] will sort of grade itself and go through this process of self-learning.”Other companies, including tech giants like Microsoft, Meta, OpenAI, and Anthropic, are already using synthetic data to train flagship AI models. Gartner estimates 60% of the data used for AI and analytics projects in 2024 were synthetically generated.Microsoft’s Phi-4, which was open sourced early Wednesday, was trained on synthetic data alongside real-world data. So were Google’s Gemma models. Anthropic used some synthetic data to develop one of its most performant systems, Claude 3.5 Sonnet. And Meta fine-tuned its most recent Llama series of models using AI-generated data.Training on synthetic data has other advantages, like cost savings. AI startup Writer claims its Palmyra X 004 model, which was developed using almost entirely synthetic sources, cost just $700,000 to develop — compared to estimates of $4.6 million for a comparably sized OpenAI model.But there as disadvantages as well. Some research suggests that synthetic data can lead to model collapse, where a model becomes less “creative” — and more biased — in its outputs, eventually seriously compromising its functionality. Because models create synthetic data, if the data used to train these models has biases and limitations, their outputs will be similarly tainted.
🇪🇸🇺🇸 SPAIN HANDED TESLA THE KEYS TO EUROPE: UNLIMITED NATIONWIDE FSD TESTING, NO DRIVER REQUIREDYes, this is massive news for Tesla.Spain quietly dropped the mother of all regulatory gifts in July 2025: the ES-AV framework that puts the country straight into Phase 3.Remote monitoring allowed, no mandatory safety driver, full public road access.Tesla immediately got approval for 19 vehicles with unlimited testing across the entire country.This isn't some small pilot program in a parking lot.This is real-world, all-roads, no-human-behind-the-wheel testing at scale, exactly what Tesla needs to train FSD Supervised and Robotaxi to European driving chaos.Spain just became Tesla's European data goldmine overnight.While California is still choking on red tape and Germany moves at a bureaucratic snail's pace, Spain said, "Come get your miles."2026 Robotaxi fleets in Madrid and Barcelona suddenly look a lot more real.Is Europe waking up? If so, Tesla is the alarm clock.Source: ES-AV Framework Programme (July 2025), @KRoelandschap, @Tesla, @teslaeurope
00:39:20.461 --> 00:39:24.138THE MOST, YOUR LINE OF SIGHT. ≫ WHY IS THIS MADNESS 00:39:24.138 --> 00:39:26.138OCCURRING?00:39:26.944 --> 00:39:29.759IT MUST BE A BUBBLE AND IT'S GOING TO CRASH. NO. IT'S NOT A 00:39:29.759 --> 00:39:31.759BUBBLE.00:39:33.066 --> 00:39:35.066IF ANYTHING IT'S UNDER HYPED BECAUSE YOU ARE 00:39:36.274 --> 00:39:38.274FUNDAMENTALLY AUTOMATING BUSINESSES AND THE REASON 00:39:38.274 --> 00:39:40.274PEOPLE ARE SPENDING THIS AMOUNTOF MONEY IS TO AUTOMATE THE 00:39:40.275 --> 00:39:43.391BORING PARTS OF THEIR BUSINESS. WHETHER IT'S BILLING 00:39:43.391 --> 00:39:45.391OR ACCOUNTING 00:39:45.994 --> 00:39:48.704OR PRODUCT DESIGN OR DELIVERY OR INVENTORY OR WHATEVER. 00:39:48.704 --> 00:39:50.704PEOPLE ARE AUTOMATING THOSE. AND THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT THERE.00:39:51.513 --> 00:39:54.622THINK ABOUT MEDICINE. CLIMATE CHANGE AND ENGINEERING NEW 00:39:54.622 --> 00:39:56.622SCIENCE.00:39:59.538 --> 00:40:01.538IT'S EXTRAORDINARY.00:40:06.945 --> 00:40:10.553≫ WHAT EXCITES YOU THE MOST OF THE ONES THAT YOU'VE SEEN THAT00:40:10.553 --> 00:40:14.861YOU HAVE A LINE OF SIGHT TO THAT THE REST OF US ARE NOT 00:40:14.861 --> 00:40:16.861SEEING. ≫ SORRY.00:40:16.861 --> 00:40:18.861I HAVE A COUGH.00:40:22.103 --> 00:40:24.103I APOLOGIZE. 00:40:26.325 --> 00:40:29.337≫ WE CAN ALL SEE IN OUR OWN IMAGINATION WHAT WE ARE 00:40:29.337 --> 00:40:31.337THINKING OF BUT WE WILL SEE WHAT ERIC SAYS. 00:40:32.646 --> 00:40:34.646≫ WHEN I STARTED IN HIGH SCHOOLI WAS AN 00:40:36.254 --> 00:40:40.461EARLY PROGRAMMER AND I DELIGHTED IN WRITING CODE. 00:40:40.461 --> 00:40:42.461WHEN I WENT TO COLLEGE AND GRADUATE SCHOOL THAT'S ALL I 00:40:42.461 --> 00:40:45.570WANTED TO DO. I WAS THE DEFINITION OF A NERD AT THE 00:40:45.570 --> 00:40:49.071TIME. AND EVERYTHING THAT I DIDIN MY 20s WHICH GOT ME TO WHERE00:40:49.071 --> 00:40:51.071I AM HAS NOW BEEN COMPLETELY AUTOMATED.00:40:54.386 --> 00:40:56.386EVERY ASPECT OF THE PROGRAMMINGI DID, EVERY ASPECT OF DESIGN 00:40:56.386 --> 00:40:58.497IS NOW DONE BY COMPUTERS.00:41:01.702 --> 00:41:04.624I RECENTLY HAD IT RIGHT A WHOLEPROGRAM FOR ME. WATCHING IT 00:41:04.624 --> 00:41:06.624DEFINE THE CLASSES AND DETAIL OF THE INDIRECTION AND SO 00:41:06.624 --> 00:41:10.680FORTH. HOLY CRAP. THE END OF ME.00:41:13.894 --> 00:41:15.894AND I'VE BEEN DOING PROGRAMMINGFOR 00:41:17.154 --> 00:41:20.97155 YEARS. SO TO SEE SOMETHING START AND END IN FRONT OF 00:41:23.980 --> 00:41:25.980YOUR OWN LIFE IT'S REALLY PROFOUND.00:41:26.807 --> 00:41:30.122COMPUTER SCIENCE IS NOT GOING AWAY. AT LEAST UNTIL COMPUTER 00:41:30.122 --> 00:41:35.845SCIENTIST GETS REPLACED WILL BESUPERVISING THIS. BUT THE 00:41:35.845 --> 00:41:38.366ABILITY TO GENERATE CODE AT THEPOWER THAT THESE SYSTEMS CAN 00:41:38.366 --> 00:41:40.366DO IS REVOLUTIONARY.00:41:42.471 --> 00:41:44.471EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU HAS ASUPERCOMPUTER AND SUPER 00:41:44.471 --> 00:41:46.471PROGRAMMER IN YOUR POCKET.00:41:47.263 --> 00:41:50.166NOBODY HERE IS A TERRORIST. IT'S ALWAYS EASIER TO USE 00:41:50.166 --> 00:41:53.476NEGATIVE EXAMPLES. THERE'S PLENTY OF I WILL USE A 00:41:53.476 --> 00:41:55.476STEREOTYPE, YOUNG MEN LIVING INTHE 00:41:56.681 --> 00:41:58.681BASEMENT, THEIR MOTHERS GIVE THEM FOOD AND 00:42:03.488 --> 00:42:05.488BASIC THEIR -- THEY SIT THERE.00:42:08.416 --> 00:42:10.416THEY ALL HAVE THE ABILITY TO USE THESE TOOLS TO BUILD 00:42:10.416 --> 00:42:13.229INCREDIBLY POWERFUL SYSTEMS. CYBER ATTACKS, OTHER THINGS.00:42:16.447 --> 00:42:18.447THERE'S SOME EVIDENCE 00:42:21.261 --> 00:42:23.261THAT THE FELLOW WHO KILLED THE INSURANCE EXECUTIVE WAS INTO 00:42:23.261 --> 00:42:25.273SOME OF THIS, PEOPLE WERE LOOKING AT SOME OF HIS 00:42:25.273 --> 00:42:29.370WRITINGS. OF COURSE HE IS IN JAIL NOW BUT THAT HE WAS 00:42:31.073 --> 00:42:33.385SOMEHOW INFLUENCED. IT'S AN EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THE DARKEST 00:42:33.385 --> 00:42:35.385RECESSES OF HUMANITY.00:42:37.099 --> 00:42:39.099YOU GIVE THOSE PEOPLE THESE KINDS OF TOOLS, WE HAVE TO BE 00:42:39.099 --> 00:42:41.099READY. THE INDUSTRY IS WELL AWARE OF THIS AND WORKING ON 00:42:41.099 --> 00:42:43.497IT. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT DEFENSIVE SYSTEMS BE CAPABLE.00:42:46.716 --> 00:42:51.046THE EVENTUAL SOLUTION TO A.I. ,GOOD A.I. FIGHTING BAD A.I..00:42:53.266 --> 00:42:55.266THAT'S HOW IT WILL RESOLVE ITSELF. 00:42:56.682 --> 00:42:59.302≫ I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE U.S. CHINA RIVALRY IN A.I.00:43:02.508 --> 00:43:04.927AS YOU SEE IT. APOLOGIES IF IT'S NOT CLEAR ENOUGH.00:43:08.130 --> 00:43:10.130BUT IT SUGGESTS IF WE TAKE A SERIES 00:43:13.135 --> 00:43:15.135OF INDICES, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PERFORMANCE GAP IN 00:43:16.247 --> 00:43:19.459JANUARY OF 24 IT WAS SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER THAN IT 00:43:21.970 --> 00:43:23.970IS TODAY.00:43:26.687 --> 00:43:28.893AND WHAT WE MAKE OF THIS AND WHAT WE MAKE OF THE LIKELY 00:43:28.893 --> 00:43:30.893FUTURE? 00:43:31.917 --> 00:43:33.917≫ THE CHART IS CORRECT.00:43:36.785 --> 00:43:38.785BUT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE INFLUENCED BY THIS CLAIM THAT 00:43:38.785 --> 00:43:40.785IT'S NOT GOING TO BE TRUE FOR LONG.00:43:42.695 --> 00:43:44.695BECAUSE THE REASONING REVOLUTION REQUIRES SO MANY 00:43:44.695 --> 00:43:46.695CHIPS AND SO MUCH OF THE MAGICTHAT THE SAN FRANCISCO PEOPLE 00:43:46.695 --> 00:43:50.830HAVE INVENTED, USING THAT AS ASORT OF MONIKER. THAT THE GAP 00:43:50.830 --> 00:43:54.144WILL WIDEN. MY OWN VIEW IS THATTHE GAP WILL WIDEN BUT FOR 00:43:54.144 --> 00:43:56.144DIFFERENT REASONS.00:43:57.453 --> 00:43:59.453I THINK THAT THE CHINESE FOCUS IS LARGELY AS I MENTIONED ON 00:43:59.453 --> 00:44:01.453EMBEDDING A.I.00:44:02.570 --> 00:44:05.975IN EVERYTHING. TOASTERS, CARS, THEY ARE MOVING MUCH 00:44:06.882 --> 00:44:10.284MORE QUICK. THE VAST MAJORITY OF HUMAN ROBOTS WILL BE 00:44:13.296 --> 00:44:15.296CHINESE AND HIGH-POWERED AND 00:44:16.396 --> 00:44:18.396MANUFACTURED BECAUSE THEY KNOW HOW TO DRIVE THE COST OF THINGS00:44:18.396 --> 00:44:20.396DOWN. THE SUPPLY CHAINS ARE INCREDIBLE, THE COST 00:44:20.396 --> 00:44:24.020MANAGEMENT, ALL OF THE DIFFERENT STUFF. SO MY GUESS IS00:44:24.020 --> 00:44:26.020THAT IT'S 00:44:27.226 --> 00:44:29.226TRUE THAT THE GAP WILL PROBABLYGET 00:44:31.831 --> 00:44:33.831LARGER BUT THE REAL QUESTION ISWILL YOU AS A CONSUMER 00:44:33.831 --> 00:44:35.831ULTIMATELY HAVE A BETTER EXPERIENCE WITH A CHINESE 00:44:35.831 --> 00:44:39.651PRODUCT THAN A U.S. PRODUCT. THE ANSWER IS PROBABLY THE 00:44:39.651 --> 00:44:41.651CHINESE PRODUCT AND THAT'S OF 00:44:41.860 --> 00:44:43.860CONCERN. 00:44:48.698 --> 00:44:50.698≫ THERE IS A HALF-DOZEN QUESTIONS ABOUT WHICH PEOPLE 00:44:50.698 --> 00:44:53.513ARE MAKING BETS AND YOU'VE THOUGHT ABOUT IT DEEPLY. ARE WE00:44:53.513 --> 00:44:55.513GOING TO BET ON 00:44:57.923 --> 00:44:59.923COMPUTER CHIPS AND SNACKS OR BRAINS?00:45:01.632 --> 00:45:04.934CLOSED OR OPEN? ANOTHER ONE IS ARE WE GOING TO BET WORKING 00:45:04.934 --> 00:45:06.934HARD 00:45:08.135 --> 00:45:10.244ON AGI OR APPLICATIONS?00:45:13.446 --> 00:45:15.446IF YOU GO ACROSS THE 00:45:17.251 --> 00:45:19.251SPECTRUM HERE, IF I LOOK AT THECHINESE 00:45:21.256 --> 00:45:25.767PIECE CERTAINLY THE GUYS AT DEEP-SEA HAVE 200 PEOPLE WHO 00:45:29.075 --> 00:45:31.075HAVE BRAINS THAT COST 00:45:32.082 --> 00:45:35.492ONE 1000 OF THE COST OF A.I. AND NOW THERE ARE 00:45:37.806 --> 00:45:40.316SIX OTHER ALONG FROM THE SAME SPACE. SO THAT ONE MAKES ME 00:45:40.316 --> 00:45:43.726WARY. ON THE CLOSED VERSUS OPEN, OUR 00:45:47.434 --> 00:45:49.434LAST CONVERSATION YOU WERE PRETTY MUCH 00:45:52.243 --> 00:45:54.243CONCLUDED THAT OPEN IS GOING TOBE CLOSED BUT ALL OF OUR 00:45:54.243 --> 00:45:56.243COMPANIES ARE MOSTLY CLOSED. SOWHAT ABOUT THAT?
Sal Khan: Companies Should Give 1% of Profits To Retrain Workers Displaced By AIPosted by EditorDavid on Sunday December 28, 2025 @03:37AM from the stopping-a-job dept."I believe artificial intelligence will displace workers at a scale many people don't yet realize," says Sal Kahn (founder/CEO of the nonprofit Khan Academy). But in an op-ed in the New York Times he also proposes a solution that "could change the trajectory of the lives of millions who will be displaced...""I believe that every company benefiting from automation — which is most American companies — should... dedicate 1 percent of its profits to help retrain the people who are being displaced."CitarThis isn't charity. It is in the best interest of these companies. If the public sees corporate profits skyrocketing while livelihoods evaporate, backlash will follow — through regulation, taxes or outright bans on automation. Helping retrain workers is common sense, and such a small ask that these companies would barely feel it, while the public benefits could be enormous...Roughly a dozen of the world's largest corporations now have a combined profit of over a trillion dollars each year. One percent of that would create a $10 billion annual fund that, in part, could create a centralized skill training platform on steroids: online learning, ways to verify skills gained and apprenticeships, coaching and mentorship for tens of millions of people. The fund could be run by an independent nonprofit that would coordinate with corporations to ensure that the skills being developed are exactly what are needed. This is a big task, but it is doable; over the past 15 years, online learning platforms have shown that it can be done for academic learning, and many of the same principles apply for skill training."The problem isn't that people can't work," Khan writes in the essay. "It's that we haven't built systems to help them continue learning and connect them to new opportunities as the world changes rapidly."CitarTo meet the challenges, we don't need to send millions back to college. We need to create flexible, free paths to hiring, many of which would start in high school and extend through life. Our economy needs low-cost online mechanisms for letting people demonstrate what they know. Imagine a model where capability, not how many hours students sit in class, is what matters; where demonstrated skills earn them credit and where employers recognize those credits as evidence of readiness to enter an apprenticeship program in the trades, health care, hospitality or new categories of white-collar jobs that might emerge...There is no shortage of meaningful work — only a shortage of pathways into it.Thanks to long-time Slashdot reader destinyland for sharing the article.
This isn't charity. It is in the best interest of these companies. If the public sees corporate profits skyrocketing while livelihoods evaporate, backlash will follow — through regulation, taxes or outright bans on automation. Helping retrain workers is common sense, and such a small ask that these companies would barely feel it, while the public benefits could be enormous...Roughly a dozen of the world's largest corporations now have a combined profit of over a trillion dollars each year. One percent of that would create a $10 billion annual fund that, in part, could create a centralized skill training platform on steroids: online learning, ways to verify skills gained and apprenticeships, coaching and mentorship for tens of millions of people. The fund could be run by an independent nonprofit that would coordinate with corporations to ensure that the skills being developed are exactly what are needed. This is a big task, but it is doable; over the past 15 years, online learning platforms have shown that it can be done for academic learning, and many of the same principles apply for skill training.
To meet the challenges, we don't need to send millions back to college. We need to create flexible, free paths to hiring, many of which would start in high school and extend through life. Our economy needs low-cost online mechanisms for letting people demonstrate what they know. Imagine a model where capability, not how many hours students sit in class, is what matters; where demonstrated skills earn them credit and where employers recognize those credits as evidence of readiness to enter an apprenticeship program in the trades, health care, hospitality or new categories of white-collar jobs that might emerge...There is no shortage of meaningful work — only a shortage of pathways into it.