El avispero de oriente

[sudden and sharp]

Fotos del drama sirio:



http://photo.sf.co.ua/id154






... y una vez más se ve la calidad del sector inmobiliario romano.

[wanderer]

Por fin alguien en los US se atreve a decir lo obvio. Ya veremos cuánto tardan en silenciarla, si es que no lo han hecho ya:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-21/us-congresswoman-introduces-bill-stop-illegal-war-assad-says-cia-ops-must-stop

[Lego]

Sinb duda están manifestándose cambios.

Esto se emitió hace un par de días en la CBS, nada menos.

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Y esto en The Guardian
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/18/turkey-cut-islamic-state-supply-lines-erdogan-isis

 
O en el NYT
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/11/21/opinion/saudi-arabia-an-isis-that-has-made-it.html?_r=1

Nótese que el video de la CBS acusa a los propios EEUU,  mientras que los dos de prensa se la echan a Turquía y Arabia Saudí.

[lordloki]

Turquia derriba Su-24 ruso cerca (o dentro, no se sabe bien) de su frontera.
Punto de inflexión en esta guerra?

https://actualidad.rt.com/actualidad/192424-turquia-derribar-avion-militar-rusia-siria

[tomasjos]

Venga va, lo digo yo: Vamos a morir cienes de veces con mucho dolor

[dmar]

Y yo en el causas y con estos pelos!

[Lego]

Era un bosnio en bosnia...

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[Dan]

El ministro de defensa ruso con su version:

https://youtu.be/KGlJFoIBKQw

Va con subtitulos pero a destacar:

-Que el Su24 no cruzo la frontera siendo disparado a 1km de la misma. No se si creermelo, pero en cualquier caso en la version turca del incidente con su tracking de radar el avion hubiera pasado unos 17 segundos sobrevolando Turquia. No justifica un derribo ni da tiempo a warnings.

-Que al principio de la intervencion rusa establecieron un canal de comunicacion de emergencia entre ambos paises para estos casos (una linea directa, vaya) y los turcos no lo han usado. Lo cual es grave porque da a entender premeditacion.

-Que en lo sucesivo las misiones de bombardeo iran escoltadas por cazas. Esto supondra un alivio para los rebeldes y el ISIS porque la capacidad operativa del aeropuerto de Latakia la van a tener que dividir y habra menos bombardeo. Al menos hasta que tengan lista la base de Kuweires en Alepo.

[Saturio]

Algo no se sostiene.

Esta mañana los turcos decían que habían estado estado dando advertencias (10 en cinco minutos).

Cinco minutos es una eternidad para unas cosas (por ejemplo son 1/12 de hora que a 1200 kmh da para recorrer 100 kilometros de espacio aereo) y una mierda para ver la violación, consultar a la cadena de mando, dar las advertencias y que alguien decida, disparar, y que el misil de mientras aún se está en el espacio aéreo turco.

Es decir, si fueron cinco minutos (y eso si no fueron tres y medio), o bien la orden estaba dada de antemano (si pasan, disparadles), o alguien por debajo de la cadena de mando ha metido la gamba pero bien (eso sí oficialmente los Turcos están defendiendo la acción).

Así que voto por premeditación en el sentido de que la orden estaba dada. Sabían que los rusos pasaban o podían pasar con motivo de los ataques en esa zona (porque las aproximaciones o la evasión a determiandos objetivos pasan por encima de Turquía) y que si lo hacían les intentarían disparar.

La cuestión es por qué.

[mpt]

en mi mania de que esto va de estados fallidos, los turcos tienen todos los puntos, aun considerando su pertenencia a la otan y que marihuano se haya dejado alli unos misiles cuando todos los demas se han ido;

tiene todos los puntos de que le hagan una huseinada (como a sadam husein y sus bendecidas guerras vecinales, para acabar en desastre)

http://www.elperiodicodearagon.com/noticias/internacional/galletas-ejercito_289057.html

http://noticias.lainformacion.com/economia-negocios-y-finanzas/equipos-de-defensa/la-industria-militar-turca-pretende-conquistar-el-mundo-en-la-proxima-decada_a1izrrY6PGI9k1qBk5nQ42/

http://ecodiario.eleconomista.es/flash/noticias/4068419/06/12/Clinton-juzga-inaceptable-el-derribo-del-avion-turco-por-parte-de-Siria.html

Era un bosnio en bosnia...

arturito, pidete una hinjiirencia, pero de andorra no vale, ehhh; a ver si el olvido de marihuano es para pagar alguna deuda;

por no poner un post en otro hilo; una de petanca, que rtve ha riipitio un documental al respecto

http://www.rtve.es/television/20150618/documentos-tv-del-podio-olvido/1163528.shtml

como viene a decir uno de los entrevistados, en no recuerdo que momento del documental: "empujado por tu coacher, vives siendo positivo y plof, acabas en el divan de una palillera";

[Currobena]

La nueva bomba de cobalto rusa es el arma definitiva para acabar con la humanidad ¿existe o no?

A Kremlin-owned TV network ‘accidentally’ airs footage of specs for Russia’s frightening new underwater nuclear weapon. Is it just a ruse to talk up Moscow’s military might?A stray camera at a meeting of top Russian military leaders has allegedly captured a glimpse of the Kremlin’s possible plan for a bewildering and frightening new weapon—a radiation-scattering “dirty bomb.” One delivered by a drone submarine, which itself rides piggyback on another submarine.
The problem is: We have no way of knowing for sure if this is in fact an existing weapon or simply a media provocation designed to make us think that Russian President Vladimir Putin has got a dangerous new toy in his arsenal. If it’s real, then Russia is the first country we know about to come into possession of a weapon that, while not nearly as destructive as an atomic bomb, could spread lethal radiation over a wide area, rendering it uninhabitable. If the segment is a fake, it’s the latest in a long list of Kremlin media hoaxes.
“It’s true some secret data got into the shot, and it was subsequently deleted,” Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Wednesday about the mysterious footage. “We hope that this won’t repeat.”
The technical aspects of such a device aren’t all that complicated. A dirty bomb is simply any munition containing conventional explosives wrapped in radioactive material. It explodes like any normal munition, but the fragments it scatters are irradiated and thus more dangerous for far longer periods of time than the debris from any standard bomb.
Compared to nuclear weapons, dirty bombs are easy to make—and their use, while highly provocative, is less likely to spark global Armageddon. But they’re still nasty enough that, back in the 1970s, the United States and Russia came pretty close to banning them.
This week Putin was in the Black Sea city of Sochi for a meeting with senior military officers and officials from Russia’s arms industry. A camera from government-owned Channel One news was in the room and, apparently by accident, looked over the shoulder of an officer as he flipped open a page on a briefing book.
Channel One broadcast the footage at least once before editing the shots to remove the briefing, perhaps at the urging of government censors. But attentive viewers had already posted the original clip to YouTube—and got busy circulating screenshots on social media.
The fleeting glance at the book, visible at the 1:46 mark in the video, features twin headers. “Ocean Multipurpose System Status-6” and “Developer—Rubin Design Bureau.” And, below that, some explanatory text and illustrations.
“Purpose—the defeat of the important economic facilities in the area of the enemy coast,” the text reads, “and causing unacceptable damage to… the country through the establishment of extensive zones of radioactive contamination, unsuitable for implementation in these areas of military, economic, business or other activity for a long time.”
The illustrations on the Sochi brief depict a torpedo-like robotic vehicle as well as two larger subs—the nuclear-powered “Project 09852” and “Project 09851” vessels that are under construction for the Russian navy, and which are both reportedly optimized for rescue, reconnaissance and other undersea special operations.
“Today in Sochi Putin is shown proposal for Status-6—a massive ‘dirty bomb’ weapon system developed by Rubin,” tweeted Pavel Podvig, an independent military analyst based in Geneva. “Appears to be an underwater drone launched from a mini-submarine,” Podvig added.
All of which sounds very scary and Cold War 2.0. But might that not be the point? For one thing, there’s nothing on these slides that says “Top Secret” or “Confidential,” which one would expect of Russian Defense Ministry documents outlining a new nuclear capability. Second, there’s always a chance that this “accidental” giveaway of state secrets was anything but.
Soviet intelligence, which Putin once served, mastered the art of dezinformatsiya, or disinformation, the purposeful spreading of falsehoods in order to hoodwink the West. This often involved not just spreading defamatory fake news items about the U.S and its allies and getting them planted in Western newspapers but also concocting fake stories or bits of intelligence out of Moscow, the better to manipulate the American response. One of the more famous examples of dezinformatsiya was the bogus “doomsday report,” which Yury Andropov’s KGB cooked up in the late ’70s in order to get Washington to abandon its plans to deploy Pershing II nuclear missiles in Western Europe. The Soviet Academy of Sciences fabricated a whole study about the nightmarish ecological effects of nuclear winter just so it could be distributed to environmental and peace groups on the other side of the Iron Curtain, thereby creating democratic grassroots pressure to nix the Pershings.
So while it’s certainly plausible than sloppy Channel One editing gave keen viewers a chance to glimpse perfectly intelligible specs for a new Russian weapon system, it’s just as plausible that viewers were shown exactly what the Kremlin wanted them to see—plans for something that doesn’t exist.
American arms control analyst Jeffrey Lewis, for one, was incredulous. “It sounds insane,” he told The Daily Beast by email. Lewis said he struggled to understand the appeal of a dirty bomb. “I guess it’s that you render areas unusable—like air bases or, more grimly, farms and sources of food.”
In a 2014 article in Foreign Policy, Lewis recalled the history of dirty bombs. How Russia tinkered with the radiological weapons during the 1950s. And how, during the darkest days of the Korean War, with Chinese and North Korean troops threatening to overrun American forces, U.S. Army Gen. Douglas MacArthur proposed “sowing a band of radioactive cesium across Manchuria as a kind of ‘cordon sanitaire’ against the Chinese advance.”
The Army tested prototype dirty bombs in 1952 but found them to be unreliable. Instead, the Pentagon directed its attention to developing lower-yield nukes.
Still, the prospect of radiological warfare spooked U.S. and Russians leaders so much that, as part of the drafting of the Strategic Arms Limitation Talks in the 1970s, Moscow and Washington tentatively agreed never to deploy dirty bombs—an accord that collapsed in the early 1990s and “seems to have been all but forgotten by the arms control, disarmament and nonproliferation community,” Lewis wrote.
More recently, analysts worried that rogue regimes such as North Korea and Saddam Hussein’s Iraq might deploy dirty bombs. But until now, no one seemed overly concerned that Russia might return to its deep Soviet roots… and revive radiological weaponry that it once sought to ban.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/11/11/putin-tv-russia-s-got-a-dirty-bomb.html

[Dan]

La "bomba de cobalto" fue un cocepto de la guerra fria, pero del lado occidental. Mas que una bomba era un dispositivo que liberaria radioisotopos en la direccion de los vientos dominantes y dejaria esteril media Eurasia, con la URSS dentro.

A pesar de que algun desaprensivo estuvo haciendo campaña el sentido comun se impuso y no se construyo.

Tampoco creo que esto de lo que habla el articulo sea lo que sugiere. Los submarinos drones rusos estan ahi, lo de que lleven bombas de cobalto es una paja mental del autor.

[lectorhinfluyente1984]

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-30/ron-paul-rages-war-terror-creating-more-terror

[Currobena]

El hijo de Erdogan vende petróleo de contrabando de ISIS...a Israel, según Zerohedge.

While we’ve yet to come across conclusive evidence of Bilal’s connection to ISIS, we would note that the Turkish port of Ceyhan is state-run and given Turkey’s extensive experience in smuggling KRG crude, it seems entirely fair to suggest that sneaking in 40,000 or so barrels of ISIS oil each day wouldn’t be that difficult a task. Indeed, given that Kurdish oil is, like ISIS crude, technically undocumented, Turkey will always have plausible deniability on its side (unless of course the oil is being moved into the country straight from Syria which is what Putin seems to be suggesting).
In any event, if Bilal Erdogan is in fact engaged in the trafficking of stolen crude (and take it from us, Baghdad will tell you that Kurdish crude sold independently of SOMO is every bit as illegal as Islamic State oil) it’s probably worth tracking BMZ Group’s fleet. Here’s a list of ships that Turkish or other regional media have at one time or another confirmed belong to Bilal:
Mecid Aslanov

Begim Aslanova

Poet Qabil

Armada Breeze 

Shovket Alekperova

You can track them all, free of charge at MarineTraffic.com:

Just don't let Erdogan senior catch you monitoring his son's fleet or you, like Can Dündar, editor in chief of Cumhuriyet, and Erdem Gül, the newspaper’s capital correspondent in Ankara, could end up sitting in a Turkish jail for 100 + 42 years.

Al parecer, la libertad de prensa está dejando de ser un concepto europeo.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-30/are-these-tankers-bilal-erdogan-uses-transport-isis-oil

Hilariously, the man who just finished starting a civil war just so he could regain a few lost seats in Parliament and who would just as soon throw you in jail as look at you if he thinks you might be a threat to his government, now says he will resign if Putin (or anyone else) can present "proof": “We are not that dishonest as to buy oil from terrorists. If it is proven that we have, in fact, done so, I will leave office. If there is any evidence, let them present it, we’ll consider [it]."
Hold your breath on that.
And so, the Turkey connection has been exposed and in dramatic fashion. Unfortunately for Ankara, Erdogan can't arrest Vladimir Putin like he can award winning journalists and honest police officers who, like Moscow, want to see the flow of money and weapons to Sunni militants in Syria cut off.
The real question is how NATO will react now that Turkey is quickly becoming a liability. Furthermore, you can be sure that the US, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar (who are all heavily invested in the Sunni extremist cause in Syria), are getting nervous. No one wants to see this blown wide open as that would mean the Western public getting wise to the fact that it is indeed anti-ISIS coalition governments that are funding and arming not only ISIS, but also al-Nusra and every other rebel group fighting to wrest control of the country from Assad. Worse, if it gets out that the reason the US has refrained from bombing ISIS oil trucks until now is due to the fact that Ankara and Washington had an understanding when it comes to the flow of illicit crude to Cehyan, the American public may just insist on indicting "some folks."

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-30/putin-says-has-more-proof-isis-oil-routed-through-turkey-after-erdogan-slams-claim

[lectorhinfluyente1984]

https://youtu.be/VnLfQk39B4s