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Re:Grecia someterá a referendum el nuevo rescate de UE
« Respuesta #45 en: Noviembre 06, 2011, 20:15:27 pm »
Ya tenemos candidato a presidente:

Lukas Papadimos, de 64 años, economista formado en el MIT y vicepresidente del Banco Central Europeo entre 2002 y 2010, probable nuevo jefe del Gobierno griego.

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Re:Grecia someterá a referendum el nuevo rescate de UE
« Respuesta #46 en: Noviembre 06, 2011, 21:44:51 pm »
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Los partidos griegos acuerdan un Gobierno de unidad nacional sin Papandreu

El Consejo de Ministros extraordinario que se ha celebrado esta tarde en Grecia será el último que presidirá Yorgos Papandreu.Después de una tarde de infarto, el primer ministro ha pactado con la oposición de centro derecha formar un Gobierno de unidad nacional en el que él no estará. El nuevo Gobierno tendrá como misión inmediata la implementación del plan de ajuste para recibir el dinero del rescate europeo. Una vez completado el plan, se convocarán elecciones.

Terminado el Consejo de Ministros, sobre las cinco y media de la tarde, Papandreu ha pedido al presidente del país que convoque una reunión esta misma tarde a tres bandas en la que participe Antonis Samaras, líder del principal partido de oposición. El presidente, por su parte, está de acuerdo en celebrar la reunión pero solo si se llega sobre la base de un acuerdo. Pasadas las siete y media de la tarde, comenzó la reunión entre Papandreu y Samaras en el palacio presidencial. Dos horas después, un comunicado de la presidencia confirmaba el acuerdo que pone fin al Gobierno socialista de Papandreu.

El diario To Vima lanzó su apuesta y aseguró que el candidato de consenso será Lukas Papadimos, de 64 años, exvicepresidente del Banco Central Europeo entre 2002 y 2010. Sin embrago, el acuerdo prevé una reunión el lunes para pactar el nombre del nuevo primer minsitro.

El partido de centro derecha
no está conforme con la opción
de Venizelos como sucesor
Papandreu anunció su decisión de echarse a un lado para favorecer el acuerdo esta mañana, poco después de que Samaras entreabriera la puerta a un Gobierno de transición que gestione la dramática crisis en la que se encuentra hundido el país heleno. El primer ministro ha propuesto a Samaras una reunión este mismo domingo para desbloquear la situación lo antes posible.

Samaras mantuvo hoy su pulso reiterando ante el presidente de la República su exigencia de que Yorgos Papandreu dimita, pero pareció recular en la petición de elecciones anticipadas que había mantenido hasta ayer.

 
"Estoy dispuesto a contribuir a una solución si Papandreu dimite", dijo Samaras delante de las cámaras de la televisión pública NET al salir de la breve reunión mantenida con el presidente de la República, Karolos Papulias. "Mientras Papandreu no se decida a dimitir, bloquea una solución", "mientras no dimita, bloquea las gestiones que dicta la Constitución", insistió el líder del principal partido de la oposición.

Fuentes cercanas a la negociación indicaron a este periódico que Nueva Democracia contempla ahora la posibilidad de entrar en un Ejecutivo de unidad nacional, que agruparía a todas las fuerzas parlamentarias -salvo los comunistas-.

El partido de centroderecha no estaría conforme, según esas fuentes, con que Evánguelos Venizelos, actual ministro de Finanzas, tome el relevo de Papandreu. Nueva Democracia estaría empujando para que el Gobierno de transición sea liderado más bien por alguna figura con un perfil técnico.

Yorgos Papandreu puso en marcha ayer el proceso para formar un Gabinete de unidad nacional que sea capaz de sacar adelante el plan de salvamento económico acordado la semana pasada con Europa. Se presentó por la mañana ante el presidente de la República, Karolos Papoulias, para anunciarle el inicio inmediato de las negociaciones. “La falta de acuerdo preocuparía a nuestros socios europeos sobre nuestra permanencia en la Eurozona”. En su reunión con Papandreu, el presidente Papoulias afirmó que "el consenso es la sola y única vía" para salir de la crisis.

Atenas es una lavadora política que se mueve a mil revoluciones y el problema es que la ropa no sale limpia. Papandreu sobrevivió el viernes a una moción de confianza tras arañar el apoyo de algunos diputados de su propio partido, el socialista Pasok, que habían amenazado con votar en su contra. Les convenció para que le ratificaran como primer ministro al prometer que se marcharía y cedería el paso a ese Ejecutivo de emergencia.

El poder de Papandreu lleva debilitándose en la calle y su partido desde que comenzó la crisis de deuda soberana. Pero el disparo en la pierna se lo pegó al convocar un referéndum sobre el rescate que ponía lo ponía en peligro. “Si dejo el poder, al menos, lo haré como alguien antiautoritario”, dijo el viernes en el Congreso.

Esto es Grecia, la tierra que inventó las palabras democracia y caos. A su fiesta nacional se le llama popularmente La fiesta del No. Se conmemora que el dictador Ionnanis Metaxas impidió la entrada de las tropas de Mussolini el 28 de octubre de 1940.

El exministro Stefanos Manikas reflexionaba sobre lo que vio el viernes en el Parlamento: “Llevo 40 años en política y creo que Grecia está en el peor momento de su historia, la política no está a la altura de la sociedad”. Algo muy similar expresaba Michiail Michailidis, que es el director de la Banda de Música Ciudad de Atenas y está llenando de música alegre las calles que la noche anterior estaban llenas de manifestantes. “Tiene que llegar a un acuerdo ya, esto es demasiado”, dijo. Es el sentir general. Un sondeo del periódico Proto Thema señala que el 52% de los consultados quiere un pacto y el 32% prefiere comicios.

de 64 años, economista formado en el MIT y vicepresidente del Banco Central Europeo entre 2002 y 2010, probable nuevo jefe del Gobierno griego.

Venizelos, posible sucesor

El rechazo político y social a Papandreu se tornó esta semana en una marea. Y el hombre clave en el giro de los acontecimientos se llama Evánguelos Venizelos, el ministro de Finanzas, un profesor de Derecho reputado en Grecia, un tipo de 56 años, de Tesalónica y ni más ni menos que el viejo rival de Yorgos Papandreu en el liderazgo del socialista Pasik.
Ahora, de una manera muy diferente a como él proyectara, puede convertirse en primer ministro de una renqueante Grecia. “Pero él nunca lo quiso así, heredar esto es un problema, no ha habido una carrera de ambición en todo esto”, dice a este diario una fuente cercana al Pasok.
Ambos regresaron juntos el miércoles, en un Falcon, de una durísima cumbre del G-20 en Cannes, donde la canciller alemana, Angela Merkel, y el presidente francés, Nicolas Sarkozy, les habían enseñado los dientes e incluso la puerta de salida por la consulta a la que Papandreu quería someter el rescate financiero.
El no habría llevado a Grecia a la quiebra y puesto en peligro a toda la zona euro. Y, al aterrizar en Atenas, lo hizo. Venizelos redactó un comunicado de madrugada y por la mañana se declaró públicamente en contra de la decisión de su jefe y la mayor parte del Gobierno le siguió.
El ministro de Finanzas convenció a Yorgos Papandreu de que abandonase las armas, de que diera marcha atrás en la consulta y formase un Gobierno de unidad nacional. A cambio, le apoyarían en la moción de censura y le darían una salida digna.

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Re:Grecia someterá a referendum el nuevo rescate de UE
« Respuesta #47 en: Noviembre 06, 2011, 23:13:42 pm »
Ya tenemos candidato a presidente:

Lukas Papadimos, de 64 años, economista formado en el MIT y vicepresidente del Banco Central Europeo entre 2002 y 2010, probable nuevo jefe del Gobierno griego.

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Re:Grecia someterá a referendum el nuevo rescate de UE
« Respuesta #48 en: Noviembre 07, 2011, 09:30:15 am »
Parece que la noticia no ha sentado muy bien a las primas de riesgo.

La prima de riesgo española, el rendimiento extra que exigen los inversores por comprar deuda nacional en lugar de alemana, quedaba situada en 372 puntos básicos poco antes de la apertura de la Bolsa

La prima de riesgo de Italia, que se mide con el diferencial entre el bono nacional a diez años y el alemán del mismo plazo, alcanza los 480 puntos básicos, lo que supone el máximo histórico

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El BCE ya preside Grecia.
« Respuesta #49 en: Noviembre 10, 2011, 13:10:15 pm »
Acuerdo entre socialistas, conservadores y el partido ultra Laos en el nombre del nuevo primer ministro griego: Lukas Papadimos, que ya se encuentra reunido con el presidente del país, informa el diario To Vima. Aún no ha habido anuncio oficial.

Lukas Papadimos, de 64 años, economista formado en el MIT y vicepresidente del Banco Central Europeo entre 2002 y 2010,

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No es que sea una novedad, pero ahora ya de forma oficial.

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Re:El BCE ya preside Grecia.
« Respuesta #50 en: Noviembre 10, 2011, 13:37:13 pm »
Sólo le faltaba ser de Goldman

Me parece tremendamente ridículo que la solución sea poner al mando a un tipo que no vió venir esto (o se hizo el sueco más bien) pese a tener información de primera mano y capacidad para hacer cambios. Y eso unido al nombramiento de SuperMario como presidente con su historial dan ganas de llorar...

Parece bastante claro que quieren que las cosas sigan como están, pero es que ya no se preocupan ni de disimular

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Re:El BCE ya preside Grecia.
« Respuesta #51 en: Noviembre 10, 2011, 14:02:53 pm »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucas_Papademos


Vaya, al final salió el democráticamente elegido en la última junta de Goldman y Satchs.

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El hilo de Grecia: dracma, fakelaki y zombis
« Respuesta #52 en: Noviembre 27, 2011, 09:54:56 am »
"Grecia podría no alcanzar su objetivo de beneficios para el próximo año tras la ronda de privatizaciones debido al recrudecimiento de la coyuntura económica europea, según ha asegurado el director del Fondo de la República Helénica de Fondos para el Desarrollo, Costas Mitropoulos, encargado de vender los activos del Estado.

En una entrevista que se publica este domingo en el diario griego Kathimerini, Mitropoulos dice que el objetivo para 2012, fijado en unos 9.300 millones de euros, es "loable", en base al borrador de los presupuestos.

"Pero la realizada mostrará si estas previsiones son correctas. Para ser capaces de vender, debe haber compradores", afirma Mitropoulos. "Si esta situación continúa, entonces seguro que resultará complicado encontrar compradores de nuestros activos", ha agregado. ......"

http://www.eleconomista.es/economia/noticias/3563016/11/11/A-Grecia-ya-no-le-salen-las-cuentas-ni-vendiendo-los-activos-del-Estado.html
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Re:A Grecia no le salen las cuentas ni vendiendo activos del estado
« Respuesta #53 en: Noviembre 27, 2011, 14:21:59 pm »
Mejor. Vender el el coche parea comprar gasolina es de idiotas.

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Re:A Grecia no le salen las cuentas ni vendiendo activos del estado
« Respuesta #54 en: Noviembre 27, 2011, 15:24:40 pm »
Mejor. Vender el el coche parea comprar gasolina es de idiotas.

Ya, pero se trata de vender los autobuses (=propiedad pública) para comprar gasolina para los Porsche, y eso no es de idiotas sino de "listos" o hijosdeputa que diría aquel

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Re:A Grecia no le salen las cuentas ni vendiendo activos del estado
« Respuesta #55 en: Noviembre 27, 2011, 16:55:48 pm »
Grecia pide a sus acreedores ampliar la quita de su deuda al 75%

Grecia está negociando con los acreedores el canje de sus bonos, un aspecto clave en la crisis de euro, y quiere ampliar la quita hasta el 75%, frente al 50% pactado y en torno al 40% que contemplan los bancos, según informa Reuters.
 
El Instituto de Finanzas Internacionales hasta ahora ha sido el principal negociador, pero existen dudas sobre si tiene apoyo suficiente para pactar el canje, que costará miles de millones a los bancos.
 
Hay 206.000 millones de euros de bonos del gobierno griego en manos del sector privado -bancos, inversores institucionales y fondos- y una reducción del 50% reduciría la carga de deuda de Grecia en unos 100.000 millones de euros.
 
Según informa Reuters, los griegos estarían exigiendo que el valor de los nuevos bonos sea el 75% de los anteriores, una quita mucho más severa al 40% que los bancos tienen en mente.
 
Los líderes de la Unión desde el principio han en el carácter voluntario de la oferta del canje de bonos, ya que temían que podría tener un impacto desastroso en los mercados financieros.

http://www.expansion.com/2011/11/25/economia/1322241177.html?a=c0c82938e3abbcd8638cbc5dab2302f6&t=1322408888

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El hilo de Grecia: dracma, fakelaki y zombis
« Respuesta #56 en: Diciembre 07, 2011, 17:16:57 pm »
El expresidente frances Valery Giscard d´Estaing, que en su momento fue uno de los principales valedores de la entrada de Grecia en la Eurozona, cree ahora que Atenas debería considerar un abandono del euro para evitar infligir el daño de la deflación a su pueblo.

Giscard es conocido por su cercanía a Grecia. El presionó para que el país entrara en la Unión Europea frente a las objeciones de Alemania, allanando el camino para que Atenas se uniera en 1981 a lo que entonces se llamaba Comunidad Económica Europea.

En una entrevista concedida a Reuters, Giscard dijo que Grecia se enfrentaba a una decisión difícil. "Grecia podría permanecer en la Eurozona pero es muy difícil conseguir una recuperación economica con una moneda fuerte", explicó el expresidente francés, de 85 años. "¿Es mejor utilizar una moneda nacional durante un tiempo o tener la seguridad de una moneda fuerte? Es la decisión de Grecia".

Ayer martes, Grecia aprobó un nuevo programa de austeridad mientras continúan las violentas protestas en los alrededores del Parlamento. La economía se contraerá el año que viene de nuevo, culminando el quinto consecutivo de recesión.

Giscard aseguró que si Grecia hubiera mantenido el dracma, probablemente lo hubiera devaluado un 40-50%, y cree que el pueblo griego no va a aceptar el 40% de deflación interna que necesita su economía. "Esa medida tiene enormes costes humanos, sociales y políticos".

Sin embargo, d´Estaing no tiene ninguna duda de que Grecia permanecería en la Unión Europa aunque abandonara la Eurozona.

Preguntado por las últimas declaraciones del actual presidente francés, Nicolas Sarkozy, que volvió a asegurar que sería desastroso si algún país abandonara el euro, la respuesta fue simple: "está equivocado".


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El hilo de Grecia: dracma, fakelaki y zombis
« Respuesta #57 en: Diciembre 11, 2011, 11:57:37 am »
Creo que sería buena idea concentrar los mensajes sobre Grecia en un único hilo, como en el otro foro.

Empiezo con este excelente texto del Kathimerini, periódico de centro derecha, germanófilo y pro-troika, pero los puntos sobre las íes, oiga (no todos los puntos, algunas cosas son flojas, pero bueno):

http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_wsite3_1_08/12/2011_417884

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Umbrella union: 10 myths about Greece and the crisis

By Nick Malkoutzis

There is a wonderful short documentary doing the rounds on the Internet at the moment courtesy of The New York Times. Directed by Errol Morris, the film focuses on the presence of the so-called “Umbrella Man” at the assassination of US President John F. Kennedy. With the help of private detective and former philosophy professor Josiah Thompson, Morris paints the picture of the apparently sinister presence of a man holding a black umbrella on a sunny day in Dallas exactly at the point where Kennedy was shot.

However, Thompson goes on to point out that the Umbrella Man eventually came forward and explained that he was holding the umbrella as a protest against the appeasement policy of JFK’s father, Joseph P. Kennedy, when he was US ambassador to Britain before the Second World War. The umbrella was a visual reference to the British prime minister at the time, Neville Chamberlain, who also carried one.

“If you put any event under a microscope, you will find a whole dimension of completely weird, incredible things going on,” says Thompson, adding that the Umbrella Man episode is a “cautionary tale.” “If you have any fact which you think is really sinister; forget it man, because you can never think up all the non-sinister, perfectly valid explanations for that fact,” he says.

As incongruous as the two events are, perhaps there is a lesson that we can take from the story of the maligned Umbrella Man going into this week’s momentous European Union leaders’ summit. One of the main reasons that we have arrived at the point where the future of the euro and the EU itself is hanging in the balance is that too many decision-makers within the Union and the eurozone have spent the last two years chasing shadows, or men with umbrellas if you will, rather than addressing the real issues.

For much too long, this crisis -- which Europe now unanimously admits is a systemic one -- was approached as if it was a symptom of the failure of one country: Greece. Rather than treat Greece as the weakest link in a chain that would be tested to its limits, the eurozone chose to view it as the font of all Europe’s woes. The fact that a more comprehensive strategy to tackle the euro’s weakness is now being sought is tantamount to an admission that the wrong strategy was adopted.


The blinkered view that persisted over the past couple of years was built on certain myths that went largely unchallenged and became established in public discourse, much to the damage of both Greece and the eurozone. These myths have since given rise to other tales that threaten to undermine any possibility of recovery, even at this late stage. For this reason, perhaps now would be a good time to address some of the misnomers and misconceptions of the past months.

1. Greece should never have joined the euro -- it used false statistics.

People often make the mistake of lumping these two issues together when there is clear distinction between the two. There is a valid economic argument that Greece, and several other countries, should not have joined the euro when they did. In Greece’s cases, it had achieved only a superficial convergence based on public debt and deficit figures but the negative underlying economic factors should have meant that the Greek organ was rejected in this currency transplant. The structural problems that Greece never addressed, such as its decrepit public administration and weak production base, meant that it was at a disadvantage from the start and would have had to undergo a remarkable transformation -- one which was never attempted by the country’s timid politicians -- to achieve a sound footing within the eurozone.

Instead, Greece ended up producing only one euro of its own wealth for every three that it imported over the last decade. However, this issue is totally removed from that of forged statistics. It has become a throwaway line for commentators and journalists to write that Greece fibbed its way into the euro. This misconception is largely driven by the decision of the New Democracy government that came to power in March 2004 to conduct an audit of public finances that led to Greece’s budget deficit figure being revised upward, above the 3 percent of gross domestic product limit for euro-area members. However, the deficit increase was largely down to the conservative administration changing the way military expenditure was recorded. Rather than record the spending when the procurements were delivered, it attributed them to the date when the orders were made. This exposed a weakness in the way that the eurozone treated statistics. By failing to agree on a uniform system for all, it allowed statistics to be open to political manipulation in several member states, not just Greece. It is an issue that the European Commission has only addressed over the last few months. As Dimitris Kontogiannis revealed in Kathimerini English Edition recently, the EU now uses the delivery method to record procurements, which means Greece’s deficit when it joined the European Monetary Union in 1999 met the 3 percent target.

According to the Commission’s database, several other countries’ deficits, including France and Spain, were over 3 percent. Some will argue that this is irrelevant now and in a sense it is. But the regular rehashing of this myth has contributed to the impression among commentators, as well as average Europeans, that Greece has to answer for an original sin even though this offense was never committed. Establishing the truth has to be the first step to rebuilding trust.

2. Greece wasted years of European Union subsidies.

It is true that Greece has not made the best use of the cohesion funds it has received since joining the EU. The money should have helped invigorate the Greek economy so it could compete and create jobs. Instead, too much of the money was frittered away on useless schemes, such as agricultural subsidies -- although Greece was not alone in doing this.

However, that’s not to say the money was completely wasted, nor that the structural aid packages were as large as some people like to believe. During its 30-year membership of the EU, Greece has received the equivalent of 78 billion euros in Union funding. Beyond that, the European Investment Bank has also helped finance key projects such as the construction of Athens International Airport and the city’s metro system. They are just a couple of schemes where EU money has helped improve Greece’s infrastructure substantially since the 1980s. Although still far from ideal, it should not be forgotten that because of its geography, Greece has to build and maintain an unusually extensive infrastructure -- such as island ports and airports -- for a small country.

Also, it’s worth bearing in mind that before the advent of the euro, the structural funds were a way for Greece to bring in foreign currency, which it then used to buy imported goods -- mostly from Europe. Equally, one should note that many of the companies involved in Greece’s major infrastructure projects over the last decade were European. In other words, much of the money that was provided to Greece ended back in European pockets.

3. Greeks spent their money unwisely and ran up huge debts.

In the fog of crisis, people often confuse public and private debt. In Greece’s case, accusing its citizens of being irresponsible with their money over the last few years is perhaps one of the most unfair accusations you can make. While it’s true that the cheap credit which became available during the last decade fueled an unsustainable consumer boom, it inflicted damage on the Greek economy rather than on anyone else’s. The rise in demand for imported products strangled local production and meant that far too much money was flowing out of the country. However, it did not lead to Greeks as individuals owing inordinate amounts to others.

In fact, Greece has one of the lowest ratios of household debt to disposable income in the European Union. In 2009, it stood at 40 percent. Compare this, for example, to 122 percent in the UK, 130 percent in Spain and an eye-watering 240 percent in the Netherlands and it’s clear to see that those who are indignant at Greeks’ purported spending habits are misguided.

4. Greeks don’t work hard enough.

Comments over the last two years about Greeks’ work ethic, or lack thereof, have often been laced with cultural or genetic exceptionalism. The argument is often based on the theory that Greeks work too little, are always slinking off for a siesta and take long holidays. This is usually illustrated by a colourful anecdote about an idiosyncratic taverna owner on an island or a chain-smoking civil servant.

This is about as fair as basing your judgment of British or Dutch culture on the behavior of those countries’ teenagers in Malia or Hersonissos. There is no reason to form such stereotypes as there is ample statistical evidence to provide a clear picture of how hard Greeks work. Eurostat figures consistently show that Greeks work the longest hours in the eurozone. The latest figures show that Greeks worked an average of 40.9 hours per week in 2010. The eurozone average was 36.6. Even the usually privileged civil servants are now working 40-hour weeks after their working days were extended by 30 minutes this summer. Figures compiled by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) also show that Greek productivity kept pace and in some cases exceeded other eurozone countries, including Germany, during the last decade.

However, what statistics cannot show is how much of an obstacle Greeks who do not work effectively can be to the rest. Numbers, for instance, are not able to illustrate how much time a Greek business owner or employee has to invest in processing paperwork because of his country’s arcane public administration in comparison to a eurozone peer that does not suffer such a drain on his or her resources. Greece’s problem is not one of its people being lazy but one of finding a way for those who do put in the hours to be efficient.

5. Greeks retire in their 50s.

Until last year, Greeks could earn a full pension if they completed 35 full years of work. However, for them to retire in their 50s, they would have had to complete 37 years. There were some exceptions to this in the public sector and the military. Similar rules on early retirement exist in other European countries. Nevertheless, the average retirement age in Greece is not in the 50s. According to figures compiled by Eurostat, last year it was 61.4. In Germany it was 62.

However, Greece’s pension laws were overhauled early last year so that by next year Greeks will retire at 65 and will earn retirement payments that are based on the average of the salaries they earned throughout their career rather than on their final wage. These are stricter pension rules than those in other EU countries, such as Britain, where public servants went on strike last week to protest about a planned scheme very similar to the Greek one.

6. Tax evasion is widespread in Greece.

Greece has a considerable problem with collecting taxes but it is inaccurate to suggest that a sizable percentage of the population is involved in serious avoidance. According to the Finance Ministry, some 900,000 people owe the state an estimated 41.1 billion euros in outstanding taxes. However, a mere 5 percent of tax dodgers owe 85 percent of the outstanding amount. Just 14,700 individuals, companies or organizations owe 37 billion euros, according to the ministry. Each of these owes more than 150,000 euros.

Serious tax evasion in Greece is the business of a relatively small number of people and enterprises that have taken advantage of an indifferent state sector. That’s not to say that smaller-scale avoidance by companies -- the Social Insurance Foundation (IKA) estimates that 10 percent of firms don’t pay social security contributions -- is not a problem. But when about half of the working population is employed in jobs where their income is taxed at source, thereby ensuring they cannot avoid paying their dues, it is unfair to tar the whole country with the same brush.

One last factor to take into account when discussing tax evasion in Greece is the structure of its economy: Unlike most eurozone countries, more than half of Greeks are either self-employed or work in small companies of less than nine people. In Germany, for instance, this figure is less than 20 percent. This is significant because anywhere in the world you go, there is a direct correlation between this type of employment and the black economy because it becomes more difficult for authorities to check disparate tax records. A graph of OECD data shows that there is a steady rise in the size of undeclared revenues and earnings, the more self-employed professionals and small companies a country has.

In the last few months, Greece has made slow but positive steps toward addressing the problem of tax evasion. Authorities are now employing an electronic system that allows them to crosscheck data and root out dodgers.

7. Greece spent too much money on its public sector.

The key phrase here is “too much” because nobody can really define what that is. Following a request by the government, academics carried out a study on Greece’s public sector in the 1990s with the aim of providing an assessment of what the country needed from its civil service. Their findings were never published or adopted. The impression has remained, though, that Greece employs too many civil servants and spends too much on services.

In terms of personnel, the process to reduce numbers has begun. It has been slow but some 150,000 contract workers and retirees have left the public sector and more than 30,000 civil servants will be placed in a labor reserve scheme over the next few months. Undoubtedly, more people will lose their public sector jobs in the years to come as in its current economic state Greece can certainly not pay their wages.

However, when compared to other European Union countries, Greece’s public expenditure is hardly as extravagant as is often made out. The 2011 Index of Economic Freedom compiled by the Heritage Foundation and The Wall Street Journal indicates that Greece’s government expenditure is 46.8 percent of GDP. It’s high but still below countries such as the UK, Austria, Denmark and France, where it reaches 52.8 percent.

However, these figures don’t show what taxpayers get in return for the apparently average amounts that are spent on the public sector. This is where the real problem lies: Greeks are getting far too little bang for their public expenditure buck. Too much of the money has been wasted on fulfilling political favors -- either through the handing out of cushy public sector jobs or juicy public contracts -- rather than being invested in areas such as education, infrastructure and incentives for business that would provide the country with growth, jobs and a sturdy platform for the future.

In what is a double whammy for Greeks, the waste of money means that they do not enjoy the benefits of a social security system that would normally be associated with a country that purportedly spends heavily on its public sector. Social spending in Greece is actually several percentage points lower than in countries like Germany and Italy. One of the results of this is that the growing number of Greeks losing their jobs have little of the support that citizens in other eurozone countries can expect. In most cases, they will get a monthly unemployment benefit of 500 euros for a year and then be left to their own devices.

8. Greece has failed to implement the terms of its EU-IMF loan agreement (memorandum).

Greece has failed to meet the targets it agreed with the EU and the International Monetary Fund when it signed the 110-billion-euro loan agreement in May 2010. Undoubtedly, part of this is down to delays by the government and holdups in the judicial system and wider public administration. The liberalization of closed professions and the downsizing of the public sector are just two such examples.

The derelict state of the public administration, however, should have been clear to all. If a country’s civil servants are largely untrained and not monitored, if key departments lack know how, if its legal system is tied up in knots and its ministries are at war with each other due to allegiances to political parties rather than the public, then what hope can there be of achieving any meaningful change. A new OECD report suggests just as much. That’s why there had to be greater emphasis in Greece’s bailout on uprooting this system rather than on getting public finances on track.

Furthermore, the targets that Greece was set were based on certain forecasts about the way the economy would evolve in the ensuing months. These predictions, as well as the troika’s understanding of how the crisis would develop, proved to be fundamentally wrong. Greece, for instance, is set to miss its deficit target for this year by about 1 percent of GDP, but on the flip side, the Greek economy had been projected to contract by 3.8 percent, whereas it will actually by shrink by about 5.5 percent. This also highlights the fact that Greece’s drastic austerity program -- the likes of which has not been seen in Europe for several decades -- does not appear to be having the desired effect. In fact, it seems to be worsening Greece’s recession.

Nevertheless, having entered into an agreement, Greece and its government must shoulder most of the blame for the program not working so far. This does not absolve the EU and the IMF -- particularly the latter as it has experience of applying such programs in other countries -- of their responsibility. The program devised for Greece has simply not been fit for purpose. Greece has consistently been told over the last two years that it’s a unique case, yet the EU-IMF program appears to be largely a mish-mash of measures that have been applied in other countries and which do not account for the particularities of the Greek case. Surely, if it were a unique case, it would require a unique program.

9. European taxpayers’ money is being wasted on the Greek bailout.

The language attached to the 110-billion-euro Greek package (bailout, aid, financial assistance, for example) often gives the impression that bundles of euro banknotes are arriving in Athens from other parts of the eurozone in cardboard boxes stamped with a red cross and that this cash is never to be returned. The reality is somewhat different. Greece’s eurozone partners are lending this money, not gifting it.

An agreement struck earlier this year means that this money is being lent at a reasonable rate of about 3.5 percent and that the maturity of the loans has been extended to 10 years. Based on a rudimentary calculation involving all the disbursements for the first year being added together and charged at a rate of 3.5 percent, France and Germany earned about 300 million euros each in interest over the 12 months. An extra 300 million euros flowing into the public coffers of France or Germany may not make a huge difference to either of those two countries but these are sizable sums for Greece. The total interest for the first year of loans stands at about 1.3 billion euros.

Furthermore, it is estimated that only about a fifth of the money that Greece receives goes toward covering public spending commitments such as salaries and pensions. Some analysts calculate that at last 60 percent of the bailout money leaves Greece in the form of loan repayments.

In other words, those contributing to the bailouts are making a profit on their investment and the majority of their money is being returned to European banks that have in the past bought Greek bonds.

10. A return to the drachma would be the best solution to the crisis.

A number of economists and commentators have pointed to a Greek exit of the euro as being the most effective way of tackling the crisis. Some of them have put forward a convincing argument about how Greece could regain competitiveness if it is freed of its euro shackles. Certainly, it is now evident that the drachma was overvalued when Greece joined the single currency and that this damaged the country’s competitiveness. However, Greece did not help itself by failing to reform its public administration and push for a more dynamic economy in the years before and after it adopted the euro.

The danger that most foreign analysts fail to identify in the eventuality of Greece returning to the drachma is that the political impetus for carrying out these reforms will also disappear. A euro exit would be the kiss of life for the current discredited political system and its cronies. In charge of the printing press and monetary policy once again, yesterday’s men will find a way to cling on to power and run the country according to their personal designs rather than in the interest of its people.

Beyond that, there are serious economic consequences to leaving the euro -- such as a potential collapse of the banking sector and housing market, substantial depreciation of the new drachma and difficulty in importing vital supplies. These are sometimes easy for foreign observers to play down as they do not have to consider what effect all this will have on their day-to-day lives. Greeks, however, should be in no doubt that -- economic theory aside -- a return to the drachma will be ugly.

A cautionary tale

None of this is to say that there aren't problems in Greece. There are plenty of them. They used to be small but years of social indifference and political timidity meant that they grew deep roots. Even at this late and urgent stage, there are elements of the political and economic system that want to cling on to the status quo at all costs and avoid the structural changes that would give the country a chance of moving forward and creating an economy that was not heavily reliant on cheap credit from abroad, imports and consumer spending.

To tackle these problems, you must be clear about what they are. Unfortunately, much of the debate over the last two years has focused on anecdotes, extreme examples, stereotypes and exceptions to the rule. It has emphasized the worst rather than identifying the best so it could serve as an example.

Why bring all this up now? Because for much of the past two years, too many decision makers in the eurozone have been sucked in by the Greek myths. It has provided politicians, European bureaucrats, economists, bankers and even citizens a curtain to hide behind. The easy response to the crisis was to dismiss it as a problem generated by Greece and the other PIIGS.

For two years -- and despite the fact the euro was hurtling toward disaster -- the focus was on austerity, price stability, markets and bond yields. Too little attention was paid to the inherent structural weaknesses of the euro, such as the large current account deficits being run up by the countries on the periphery or the lack of institutions to manage the single currency. European politicians shied away from seriously discussing the creation of new tools such as Eurobonds or revamping the role of the European Central Bank.

It is only now that the crisis has come knocking at the door of many more countries in the form of rising yields and general investor concern that the decision makers are focusing their minds on the actual causes and potential consequences of the crisis.

So, as EU leaders gather in Brussels for make-or-break talks on what needs to be done next, the Greek case should serve as a “cautionary tale,” much in the way that “The Umbrella Man” did. There were lots of explanations for how the crisis struck and why it gripped Greece first but eurozone leaders chose to ignore them. Instead they focused on a bit-part player in this whole episode. They made the mistake of believing the myths.

[Kathimerini English Edition]
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Re:El hilo de Grecia: dracma, fakelaki y zombis
« Respuesta #58 en: Diciembre 13, 2011, 19:36:55 pm »
A los griegos también se les ha ocurrido lo de los casinos. El artículo es un no parar de reír.

(Vouliagmeni es la última esquina del área metropolitana de Atenas por el lado sur, encajonada entre mar y montaña. O sea, el sitio más caro de toda la costa de Atenas, si no de toda la región y casi de todo el país.)

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Church planning massive Vouliagmeni investment

By Apostolos Lakasas



Hotels, tourist accommodation, a conference center, spa, health center, golf course, restaurants, a cinema, bars, retail stores and other spaces dedicated to entertainment or the history of Attica are but some of the features included in a large-scale investment planned for an 8.5-hectare expanse in the southern Athenian coastal resort of Lemos at Vouliagmeni, which is owned by the Athens Archbishopric.

The investment is expected to be in a similar style to that of the luxurious Costa Navarino resort developed by shipping magnate Vassilis C. Constantakopoulos in the southern Peloponnese, while representatives of the Church of Greece have already met with a team sent by Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa Al Thani, the emir of Qatar, who has expressed an interest in the investment.

Kathimerini has also learned that an American and a Russian group have also expressed an interest in investing in the development of this prime piece of real estate, though this expression has only been verbal and the Church will need to see the proposals in writing before reaching any conclusions.

The pace of developments for the Lemos investment has picked up since October, following a visit to Qatar by Archbishop Ieronymos, where he met with Sheikh Hamad. Meanwhile, in late November, close associates of the emir met in Greece with the president of the Church’s financial services department, Vassileios, Metropolitan of Elassona, and the department’s general director Antonios Avramiotis.

Once the Qatari proposal receives the green light from the Holy Synod, a team of representatives will be flying to the Gulf state to seal the deal, which, according to information, may be extended to also include other Church property holdings.

The wealthiest Church metropolises in Greece are those of Attica, Thessaloniki, Ioannina, Kesariani, Megara, Mesogeia, Neapoli, Nea Ionia, Nea Krini, Nea Smyrni, Nikaia, Piraeus and Peristeri. Among the assets they hold that can be used to generate revenues are properties that have been made over to the Church, donations by expatriate Greeks, monasteries and points of pilgrimage. The Archbishopric of Athens, meanwhile, is the wealthiest of them all.

A close aid to the archbishop assured Kathimerini that the aim of the investment is to contribute to the local economy and to maintain the natural environment, which is why the Church is looking at a Costa Navarino-style development that combines luxury with sustainable development and environmental protection. The associate, who preferred to remain anonymous, also said the plan not only includes the construction of hotels, but also holiday residences, a sector that remains contentious in Greece.

The aid added that the Archbishopric has no intention of selling any of its assets and assured that the Church’s Vouliagmeni Orphanage, which was opened in May 1920, will not be demolished but will instead be included in the development. The Qataris, meanwhile, have also said that they would be interested in acquiring the historic Asteras Vouliagmenis Hotel should it be put up for sale.

The Lemos investment is one of many plans the Church of Greece is putting forward to boost diminishing revenues by utilizing its assets.

For example, the Athens Archbishopric posted losses of over 760,000 euros in the January-August period, while revenues from rent for the entire Church of Greece dipped in 2010 to 9.1 million euros from 12.5 million euros on average in previous years after the Church agreed to a 20 percent reduction in rental fees. Donations to the Church are also down by 30 percent, while its 9 million euros of shares in Greek banks have lost around 97 percent of their overall value since 2008.

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Re:El hilo de Grecia: dracma, fakelaki y zombis
« Respuesta #59 en: Diciembre 14, 2011, 19:13:23 pm »
¡Geopolítica energética! Los búlgaros ya no quieren construir el oleoducto terrestre para transportar petróleo ruso al Mediterráneo, vía Grecia.

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Bulgaria pulls out of Burgas-Alexandroupoli pipeline

Bulgarian Deputy Prime Minister and Finance Minister Simeon Djankov announced on Thursday that Bulgaria was pulling out of the Burgas-Alexandroupoli oil pipeline project

12 Dec 2011

Bulgarian Deputy Prime Minister and Finance Minister Simeon Djankov announced on Thursday that Bulgaria was pulling out of the Burgas-Alexandroupoli oil pipeline project.

The pipeline aimed at connecting the Bulgarian Black Sea port of Burgas with the northern Aegean port town Alexandroupoli, intended to transport Russian oil from the Black Sea to the Mediterranean Sea bypassing the traffic-clogged Bosphorus Straits.

The decision is in line with the Bulgarian centre-right government's stance since 2009 when it put on review major Russian-led energy projects and said it would abandon them if they did not match the national interest. Local political analysts welcomed the move, saying Bulgaria was right to cancel a project that was not beneficial for Sofia and foresaw few repercussions from Russia - its leading gas and oil supplier. "The project is not key for Moscow. Russia is much more interested to start building a new nuclear plant in Bulgaria and get support for the South Stream gas pipeline project," said Ognian Minchev, an analyst with Institute for Regional and International Studies.

Last week, Bulgaria gave the South Stream gas pipeline the status of a national project and declared it an object of national importance, providing opportunities for the speedy construction of the project. The pipeline is intended to carry up to 63bcm a year of Russian gas across the Black Sea to Bulgaria and then to central and southern Europe. Sofia is proposing Russia and Greece agree to dissolve a 2007 trilateral agreement for building the 300km oil pipeline which would be able to pump up to 50 million tonnes of crude a year from the Black Sea port of Burgas to Alexandroupolis on the Aegean.

The European Union's poorest country will walk out of the 1.0 billion euro project alone after 12 months if Athens and Moscow refuse to voluntarily annul the deal, Finance Minister Djankov told reporters this week. "Bulgaria proposes the tripartite intergovernmental agreement for the oil pipeline to be cancelled by mutual consent," he said. "In line with the analyses on the Burgas-Alexandroupolis oil pipeline, it cannot be carried out under the terms of the agreement signed in 2007." A government spokeswoman said an analysis by French bank Societe Generale, which is advising the project company, showed the oil link was not economically and financially viable.

The pipeline deal was signed on 15 March 2007 after the project had been touted by successive governments for 14 years. The New Democracy government of Kostas Karamanlis claimed the victory, asserting that the pipeline puts Greece on the energy map. Yet the deal also placed Greece in the middle of fiercely competing Russian and American energy interests. Greece, which sees the project as the cornerstone of a strategy to become a transit country for gas and oil flows between Central Asia, Russia and Western Europe, said it was not yet officially informed about Bulgaria's plans. Greek deputy Energy Minister Yannis Maniatis said in a statement that Athens remained firmly committed to the project.

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