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Re:Hilo de USA - poder, mentiras y orden mundial
« Respuesta #135 en: Junio 21, 2020, 15:12:24 pm »
Mientras haya sentido del humor, la revolucion es divertida (para ambos adversarios)

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/06/seattle-protest-zone-doomed-to-fail/#slide-1

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The Seattle Soviet
By Matthew Continetti   

June 20, 2020 6:30 AM

In 1871 the Commune was the revolutionary government of Paris, a revolt against the newborn Third Republic of Adolphe Thiers. The communards, drawn from the ranks of city-dwelling laborers, overthrew the republican army and replaced it with an armed guard. The police were disbanded — or “defunded” — and reconstituted as an agency of the Commune. “It aimed to expropriate the expropriators.” Churches were closed, judges were disestablished, and offices redistributed among the masses of the people.

“In a rough sketch of national organization which the Commune had no time to develop,” Marx wrote in The Civil War in France, “it states clearly that the Commune was to be the political form of even the smallest country hamlet, and that in the rural districts the standing army was to be replaced by a national militia, with an extremely short term of service.” The Russian word for the form of social organization exemplified by the Commune is “soviet.”

The Commune was crushed when Thiers organized a new regular army from the French provinces and retook Paris. Recent events in Seattle, though, drew me back to my Marx-Engels Reader. On June 8, after days of violent clashes with protesters, Mayor Jenny Durkan ordered police to abandon the East Precinct headquarters in the crunchy neighborhood of Capitol Hill. The demonstrators quickly established an “autonomous zone” within a six-block area devoid of police and governed, if that is the word, by decentralized and rotating groups of social-justice warriors, anarchists, and armed men. The Seattle soviet was born.

It, too, has tantalized the bourgeois mind. To the Left, Capitol Hill is, as one entranced New York Times correspondent put it, “now a homeland for racial justice — and, depending on the protester one talked to, perhaps something more.” To the Right, it symbolizes anarchy, danger, mob rule, and the breakdown of civil order. “This is no different than ISIS taking over cities in the Middle East,” said the lieutenant governor of Texas.


He puesto la introduccion dramática. Para el desarrollo irónico, sigan leyendo.


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La "sublevacion" de Portland

Portland Police Quickly Shut Down ‘Autonomous Zone’ Outside Mayor’s House
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/portland-police-quickly-shut-down-autonomous-zone-outside-mayors-house/

Y su "represión"

Portland approves budget with millions in cuts to police, but short of public demand for $50 million reduction
https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2020/06/portland-passes-budget-with-millions-in-cuts-to-police-spending-but-short-of-public-demand-for-50-million-reduction.html


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Re:Hilo de USA - poder, mentiras y orden mundial
« Respuesta #136 en: Junio 28, 2020, 13:24:18 pm »
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Los diputados de California votan la supresión de la frase siguiente en la constitution del Estado de  California :

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The state shall not discriminate against, or grant preferential treatment to, any individual or group on the basis of race, sex, color, ethnicity, or national origin.



Aprobado por 30 contra 10 en plus…

Voto popular para Novembre…

https://edsource.org/2020/state-senate-action-allows-california-voters-to-decide-on-affirmative-action/634455

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Senator Holly Mitchell (D-Los Angeles), who was the sponsor of the Senate measure, said its passage in November would mean more state contracts for women and minorities and a closing of education gaps for minorities. At state universities, it will lead to “a more diverse atmosphere that enhances learning and encourages mutual understanding,” Mitchell said. She also predicted it would help produce more teachers of color in California’s classrooms.




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Re:Hilo de USA - poder, mentiras y orden mundial
« Respuesta #137 en: Octubre 20, 2020, 19:16:48 pm »
En francés, he buscado el original inglés pero no lo encuentro  (dificil iba a ser, ¡es un francés!)

Charles Gave .  Trump contra el Estado profundo (deep state)
https://institutdeslibertes.org/trump-contre-letat-profond-echec-et-mat/?fbclid=IwAR3mIcpMPdouj3BEIPcB9URgAlcasgJcPz7Ew7mWN9On5X4GZShpBgRDip4

En v/ES Google
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fr&tl=es&u=https%3A%2F%2Finstitutdeslibertes.org%2Ftrump-contre-letat-profond-echec-et-mat%2F%3Ffbclid%3DIwAR3mIcpMPdouj3BEIPcB9URgAlcasgJcPz7Ew7mWN9On5X4GZShpBgRDip4

Es interesante, más para la campaña electoral que por otra cosa,


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Ahora, desconozco si el propio C. Gave tiene que ver, pero buscando, sale una interesa referencia en Wikipedia sobre el "Deep State" La dejo para dar contexto al artículo anterior,

 https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon
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QAnon o Q: (abreviación de Q-Anónimo) es una de las principales teorías de la conspiración de la extrema derecha estadounidense1​2​3​4​5​ que detalla una supuesta trama secreta organizada por un supuesto "Estado profundo" contra Donald Trump y sus seguidores.6
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Re:Hilo de USA - poder, mentiras y orden mundial
« Respuesta #138 en: Noviembre 16, 2020, 13:51:57 pm »
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Trump Attorney Rudy Giuliani Says Election will Be Overturned: "We Have Proof I Can't Disclose Yet"

https://youtu.be/zA6djc5g2aU

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Políticamente demócrata y luego independiente en la década de 1970, Giuliani ha sido republicano desde la década de 1980.1​ Se desempeñó como Fiscal General Adjunto de los Estados Unidos de 1981 a 1983 y Fiscal de los Estados Unidos para el Distrito Sur de Nueva York de 1983 a 1989.2​3​

Giuliani dirigió en los años ochenta el procesamiento federal de los jefes de la mafia de la ciudad de Nueva York como Fiscal Federal para el Distrito Sur de Nueva York.4​5​ Después de una fallida campaña electoral para la alcaldía de la ciudad de Nueva York en 1989, tuvo éxito en 1993 y fue reelegido en 1997, basándose en una plataforma de dureza contra el crimen.6​7​ Dirigió la controvertida "limpieza cívica" de Nueva York como su alcalde de 1994 a 2001.6​8​

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudy_Giuliani



Cita de: Ferrari post_id=2476922 time=1605532655 user_id=123185

Attorney Powell on election legal challenges that remain active in several states
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6209930642001#sp=show-clips

Trump Lawyer Sidney Powell: "We're Getting Ready To Overturn Election Results In Multiple States"
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-lawyer-sidney-powell-were-getting-ready-overturn-election-results-multiple-states
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Former federal prosecutor Sidney Powell, a Trump campaign lawyer, suggested in a Sunday interview that there is still more evidence coming out in President Donald Trump’s claims of voter fraud and irregularities.

    “We’re getting ready to overturn election results in multiple states,” Powell said, saying that she has enough evidence of election fraud to launch a widespread criminal investigation.

    “I don’t make comments without having the evidence to back it up,” she added, saying that elections software switched “millions of votes” from Trump to Democratic nominee Joe Biden.

    “We have so much evidence, I feel like it’s coming in through a fire hose,” Powell said, while noting that she won’t reveal the evidence that she has.

    “They can stick a thumb drive in the [voting] machine, they can upload software to it even from the Internet … from Germany or Venezuela even,” she said, adding that operations “can watch votes in real-time” and “can shift votes in real-time,” or alleged bad actors can “remote access anything.”

    “We’ve identified mathematically the exact algorithm they’ve used—and planned to use from the beginning” that allegedly switched votes to Biden, Powell remarked.


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From 1978 through 1988, Powell served as an Assistant United States Attorney for the Western and Northern Districts of Texas and the Eastern District of Virginia, where she handled civil and criminal trial work. She was appointed Appellate Section Chief for the Western and then the Northern District of Texas.[3]

In 1993 Powell established her own law firm in Dallas, Texas, aimed mostly at federal appellate practice, and practices in the Second, Fourth, Fifth, Ninth, Tenth, and Eleventh Federal Circuits, plus representing cases in the United States Supreme Court. Her firm has also handled a number of high-profile class action suits. She has served as lead counsel in more than 500 appeals in the Fifth Circuit courts, resulting in more than 180 published opinions and a reversals rate of approximately 70%
Powell is a member of the American Law Institute and a Fellow of the American Academy of Appellate Lawyers, where she served as president from 2001-2002
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidney_Powell




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Re:Hilo de USA - poder, mentiras y orden mundial
« Respuesta #139 en: Noviembre 17, 2020, 11:15:49 am »
https://twitter.com/bradheath/status/1328514432461365249:

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A federal judge won't delay tomorrow's hearing on President Trump's lawsuit to overturn the election he lost i n Pennsylvania because most of his lawyers quit. His remaining lawyer - who's also a radio host - will have to go it alone and is "expected to be prepared."

President Trump's new layer, who in addition to hosting a radio show and writing a column mainly practices business law according to his firm bio, joined the case today.

Three of President Trump's other lawyers in the Pennsylvania case filed a somewhat noisy request to withdraw today, saying "Plaintiffs [that's Trump] will be best served" if they're allowed to leave the case.

Trump's latest lawyer told listeners of his radio show Nov. 7 "in my opinion there really are no bombshells that are about to drop that will derail a Biden presidency, including the lawsuits" and suggested Trump's suits "don't seem to have much evidence."
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/459-the-marc-scaringi-show-28240609/episode/the-marc-scaringi-show-11720-73452577/#

especulación de un abogado inglés acerca de la situación (que no es única a este caso en particular) https://twitter.com/davidallengreen/status/1328614443941589000:

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Why are Trump's lawyers suddenly quitting?

- some thoughts from an English lawyer's perspective

1.

Could it be that they doubt (or reject) the merits of the case?

Probably not

Lawyers have to argue weak cases, or cases they personally disagree with, all the time

This is not a reason for suddenly quitting

2.

Could it be that they are not being paid?

Maybe, but probably not

Wise lawyers would get paid in advance, others will realise there is a risk of non-payment

This is not a reason for suddenly quitting

3.

Could it be fear of notoriety? Or pressure from existing clients?

Again, probably not

Many lawyers do not mind, often relish the hostility

Existing clients may admire that lawyers are fearless in defending interests

This is also not a reason for suddenly quitting

4.

So what are you left with?

Well, am not an American lawyer, but from an English lawyer's perspective t seems that the lawyers are being asked to do something which conflicts with their duty to the court

Yes, lawyers do have standards and absolute obligations (you may scoff)

5.

Otherwise, dropping a client (in it) on the eve of the hearing would not only be negligent, it would be a breach of the duty to the client

The only safe reason to do this is compliance with your duty to the court

6.

Attorney-client privilege and confidentiality means a lawyer cannot ever reveal this

But it is an action that speaks as loudly as any words

7.

So unless there is a more compelling explanation - or there is some aspect of US law and practice of which I am unaware (quite possible) - the best explanation for sudden departures is that lawyers would have been in breach of their duty to the court if they had carried on

8.

This duty to the court is not to mislead the court, not to lie, not to make claims that are not supported by any evidence, or legal arguments that have no basis in any law

Again, you may scoff - but lawyers and courts take these duties seriously

david allen green - @davidallengreen: And, if any lawyer can be shown to have breached these duties, they can be thrown out of the profession

That would concentrate minds wonderfully

10.

Absolutely

11.

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Emily Hamilton - @emilymcminn_ms: Big hint when one of Trump's lawyers was pointedly reminded by a judge that he needed to answer 'as a member of the bar' previously.

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Re:Hilo de USA - poder, mentiras y orden mundial
« Respuesta #140 en: Noviembre 18, 2020, 14:26:14 pm »
Lem, lo que dice este abogado inglés tiene pinta de ser una razón importante. El miedo a quedarte sin licencia para ejercer siendo abogado, como dice él, concentra la mente maravillosamente.

Y da la impresión que el sistema judicial funciona. Que los jueces van al fondo del asunto en vez de perderse en nimiedades y formalidades. Hay por ahí un diálogo de un juez con uno de los abogados de Trump....'Está diciendo que sospecha que hay fraude' Y el abogado dice 'Esto....no'

Le queda Giuliani ... el rumor esra que le habíá pedido a Trump 20 mil dolares diarios. El lo niega

https://thehill.com/homenews/526360-giuliani-denies-asking-for-20000-a-day-to-do-legal-work-for-trump

Giuliani, when contacted by the Times, denied the allegation.
“I never asked for $20,000,” he said. “The arrangement is, we’ll work it out at the end.”

Al parecer Giuliani ha perdido algo de práctica en el juzgado

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/us-politics/rudy-giuliani-court-trump-election-b73101.html

During the hearing, he needled an opposing lawyer, calling him "the man who was very angry with me, I forgot his name."

He also mistook the judge for a federal judge in a separate Pennsylvania district who rejected a separate Trump campaign case - and tripped himself up over the meaning of "opacity."

"In the plaintiffs' counties, they were denied the opportunity to have an unobstructed observation and ensure opacity," Mr Giuliani said. "I'm not quite sure I know what opacity means. It probably means you can see, right?"

"It means you can't," said U.S. District Judge Matthew Brann.'


Pero todavía recuerda lo básico para no perder su licencia.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/17/politics/trump-giuliani-election-lawsuit/index.html
'[...
At another point, when pressed, Giuliani admitted he wasn't alleging voter fraud -- but did still believe in the idea that fraud could exist.

"No, your honor, we are not" alleging fraud, Giuliani said, after Brann reminded him a newer version of the Trump campaign's lawsuit cut back those claims. It's a "fraudulent process," Giuliani continued.'
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Re:Hilo de USA - poder, mentiras y orden mundial
« Respuesta #141 en: Noviembre 18, 2020, 15:02:21 pm »
es como disponer de la nueva season de Better Call Saul (que recomiendo ver) antes de tiempo  :biggrin:

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Re:Hilo de USA - poder, mentiras y orden mundial
« Respuesta #142 en: Noviembre 18, 2020, 23:15:05 pm »

https://www.voltairenet.org/article211636.html

salud

PD. si alguien considera que debería ir en otro hilo, procédase.
En mi humilde opinión todo lo que venga de RedVoltaire.net debería ir en el hilo "Desinformación ofrecida por el bando ruso".

Les seguí durante un tiempo y aunque a veces sacas datos aislados interesantes el tufo a propaganda es evidente. Podéis ver como en el tema del 11-S siguen con el tema de las bombas en vez de los aviones (https://www.voltairenet.org/mot37.html?lang=es); y no seré yo quien niegue que pueda haber sido así, pero cuando después de 20 años cada vez hay menos nuevas evidencias lo más probable es que quede en unha historia más del tipo asesinato de Kennedy o Kubrick filmando la llegada del hombre a la luna.

Que todas esas historias apestan -y la del COVID también- es evidente. Pero Redvoltaire no me parece una fuente fiable de información. Apoyar a Trump es desear que EEUU se hunda cuanto antes en la creencia de que eso haría que Rusia reverdeciese antiguos laureles...

Yo no  intentaria enjuiciar lo que pasa desde la barrera. Mejor traer articulos relevantes, porque mientas Trump no se dé por vencido, lo único que significa es que sigue teniendo recursos,

El argumento de los tribunales estatales rechazando las denuncias me parece un poco endeble, Primero porque son denuncias estatales, Segundo porque el único argumento traido es de deontología, ¿Pero al grano; hay pruebas o no las hay? Y aunque no se admitan pruebas en primera denuncia, no por ello termina el proceso, Existe la posibilidad de apelar,

Creo que en los procedimientos que están siguiendo, no buscan la regla jurídica, sino tan sólo poner en movimiento los mecanismos  constitucionales, Y parece que Trump lo está haciendo bastante bien,
 Recordad lo que hicieron los democratas con el impeachment fallido o el RussiaGate; se comienza con denuncias en tribunales, para poder llegar a elevar un caso para que lo juzguen a las Cámaras

Yo creo que Trump está haciendo exactamente eso, Lo que Trump pretende es llevar el caso a la Corte suprema, donde los republicanos son mayoría, Para que sean las dos cámaras las que zanjen, Donde los republicanos tienen mayoría.

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Por úlimo, a mi me parece que que Biden no puede aguantar en el puesto, Bien por senilidad, bien por las cacerolas suyas y de su hijo, Está completamente quemado judicialmente y los republicanos (mayoritarios) se lo van a merendar cuando quieran. El impeachment lo ganan comiendo palomitas,

A mi, lo de Biden me asusta casi más que la propia continuidad de Trump, Pensándolo, creo que hasta preferiría que siguiera Trump. Además, había apostado que sería el macarra perfecto para acabar con el popularcapitalismo yanki, precisamente lanzando una gran politica de alojamiento de las masas a precios reales, ¡ Es lo único que sabe hacer!

Con Biden, lo que veo son 4 años de desastres militares y golpes de estado (Irán, Siria, Africa) y el sabotaje de la ruta continental de la seda entre Europa y China, Es lo que comenta ese general francés (el de red voltaire) de forma seguramente tendenciosa, pero no acabo de ver en qué le falta razón,

Es Europa la que va a pagar los platos rotos de Biden, Cuando Trump se ocupaba solito de retraer el Imperio,
No estamos ni de lejos en condiciones de prevenir y menos de enfrentar los contragolpes geopoliticos que  EEUU puede imprimir en paises eslavos, en Asia menor, en África y ni te cuento en el área de China,

Porque todos esos movimientos de choque acabarán impactando en Europa, Imaginad sólo que bombardeen Iran o más claro; que a Turquia le dé por ocupar Siria,

Ojala me equivoque, y Kamala Harris le pueda sustituir rápidamente, No tanto para cambiar de rumbo, sino para evitar desastres mayores sobre nosotros, Eso sí, teniendo que indicar 2 pronombres al inscribirse en el foro  (me refiero a lo de "she/her", para auto-calificarse como genero)

(Estoy bajo de ánimos, de todos modos)

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« Respuesta #143 en: Noviembre 19, 2020, 20:16:46 pm »


Conferencia de abogados de Trump. No sueltan nada
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    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    Important News Conference today by lawyers on a very clear and viable path to victory. Pieces are very nicely falling into place. RNC at 12:00 P.M.
    12:59 PM · 19 nov. 2020
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 84008?s=20

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Re:Hilo de USA - poder, mentiras y orden mundial
« Respuesta #144 en: Noviembre 19, 2020, 20:39:51 pm »
Creo que en los procedimientos que están siguiendo, no buscan la regla jurídica, sino tan sólo poner en movimiento los mecanismos  constitucionales, Y parece que Trump lo está haciendo bastante bien,


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C’est simple : si, au 14 décembre, le collège électoral ne parvient pas à élire un président, celui-ci sera élu par la Chambre des représentants (12e amendement de la Constitution).

Et là, vous pourriez vous dire que c’est mal engagé pour Trump, la Chambre étant majoritairement démocrate. Eh bien, non, car il y a une subtilité : chaque État dispose d’une seule voix, indépendamment de sa taille. Avec 30 États républicains et 20 démocrates, vous commencez à comprendre la stratégie…

Es decir, las leyes electorales son de los Estados, (que pararon el recuento a media noche, que ahora se oponen al recuento,)
Pero lo  que buscan los Republicanos es  acumular esa evidencias / reticencias como otras tantas pruebas de que las elecciones fueron amañadas, y que la Corte Suprema (mayoria republicana) declare entonces las elecciones invalidas en esos Estados

Resultado, el 14 de diciembre, ninguno  de los 2 candidatos alcanza 270 electores ;)

Y votan las 2 cámaras  -- Enmienda Nº12  8)

PEEEERO no votan por numero de representantes (la cámara baja tiene mayoria de 3-4 democratas, el Senado mayoria republicana)

CADA ESTADO DISPONE DE UNA VOZ y ahi resulta que hay 20 Estados democratas  y 30 republicanos :biggrin:

¿Visto?

Como dicen los protrumpistas, el timing corre a favor de Trump,
Trump tiene tiempo de encontrar todo lo que haga falta y se va a jugar al golf,
A Biden le falta tiempo para evitar que le levanten el fraude. Se precipitó diciendo que era ganador, contaba con los medios para ser "aclamado" pero no le ha salido bien,

Si consiguen levantar la tapa del water a Biden, la crisis constitucional/politica en EEUU está servida,
EEUU lo superará, pero Biden no creo, Ni probablemente todo el entramado popularcapitalista de los demócratas, (el DeepState que dicen allí)

Otros añaden que le soltarán a Biden lo de Ukrania en el momento adecuado,

Esperemos a ver.

(Vamos, Trump no ha ganado nada, pero aún no ha perdido,)
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Re:Hilo de USA - poder, mentiras y orden mundial
« Respuesta #145 en: Noviembre 19, 2020, 21:52:59 pm »
artículo al respecto https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-strategy/trumps-election-power-play-persuade-republican-legislators-to-do-what-u-s-voters-did-not-idUSKBN27Z30G?il=0

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DETROIT (Reuters) - President Donald Trump’s strategy for retaining power despite losing the U.S. election is focused increasingly on persuading Republican legislators to intervene on his behalf in battleground states Democrat Joe Biden won, three people familiar with the effort said.

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Having so far faced a string of losses in legal cases challenging the Nov. 3 results, Trump’s lawyers are seeking to enlist fellow Republicans who control legislatures in Michigan and Pennsylvania, which went for Trump in 2016 and for Biden in 2020, the sources said.

Michigan’s Republican House Speaker Lee Chatfield has said the person who wins the most votes will win the electoral votes of his state, where Trump trails by more than 150,000 votes.

But Chatfield and Michigan’s Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey will on Friday visit the White House at the president’s request, a source in Michigan said, adding they were going to listen and see what Trump had to say.

In the United States, a candidate becomes president by securing the most “electoral” votes rather than by winning a majority of the national popular vote. Electors, allotted to the 50 states and the District of Columbia largely based on their population, are party loyalists who pledge to support the candidate who won the popular vote in their state.

Typically, a state certifies a slate of electors based on which candidate won the popular vote, as Biden did in Michigan and Pennsylvania.

States have until Dec. 8 to meet a “safe harbor” deadline for resolving election disputes and choosing the electors who will select the president. The electors will convene as a so-called “Electoral College” on Dec. 14 to formally select the next president, who will take office on Jan. 20.

Trump’s lawyers are seeking to take the power of appointing electors away from the governors and secretaries of state and give it to friendly state lawmakers from his party, saying the U.S. Constitution gives legislatures the ultimate authority.

A person familiar with the campaign’s legal strategy said it has become a “more targeted approach towards getting the legislators engaged.”

As things stand, Biden has captured 306 electoral votes nationwide to Trump’s 232, well ahead of the 270 needed for victory. Were the combined 36 electoral votes in Michigan and Pennsylvania to go to Trump, he would trail by 270-268 electoral votes, meaning his campaign would still need to flip at least one more state to retain the White House.

A senior Trump campaign official told Reuters its plan is to cast enough doubt on vote-counting in big, Democratic cities that Republican lawmakers will have little choice but to intercede. The campaign is betting that many of those lawmakers, who come from districts Trump won, will face a backlash from voters if they refuse to act. The campaign believes the longer they can drag this out, the more they will have an opportunity to persuade lawmakers to intervene, the official said.

A Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll published this week suggested the Trump campaign had succeeded in stirring doubt — however unfounded — about the presidential election. The survey found about half of Republicans think Trump “rightfully won” the election he lost.

UPHILL FIGHT

Trump faces an uphill fight. Officials have said repeatedly there is no evidence of widespread voting irregularities.

Legislators in Michigan and Pennsylvania have sought not to become involved. Several leading Republicans in Michigan privately express dismay at the extent to which Trump has tried to game the election results, believing it will irreversibly tarnish the party’s image in the state for years to come.

Part of the Trump campaign effort involves trying to delay certification, the normally routine process by which election results are finalized, either through recounts or by stalling at the local level, the campaign official said.

That happened on Tuesday in Detroit, Michigan, where Republican members of the Wayne County Board of Canvassers briefly refused to certify the results, citing small discrepancies in the number of votes. The Republicans reversed themselves after hours of heated public comment, only to say in affidavits late on Wednesday that they felt threatened and wanted to rescind the certification.

One of the Republicans, Monica Palmer, said in an affidavit that the election in Wayne County “had serious process flaws which deserve investigation.” She said she voted to approve the results because she thought the state would conduct an audit.

Palmer told Reuters in a text on Thursday that Trump called her after she voted to certify the results. She said “there was no discussion of an affidavit” during the call, but did not say whether the two discussed the certification vote in detail.

Trump’s campaign dropped a federal lawsuit on Thursday challenging the election results in Michigan, citing the Wayne County officials’ affidavits.

But Tracy Wimmer, a spokeswoman for Michigan’s secretary of state, said it was too late for the Republicans to rescind their certification. “Their job is done,” she said.

Trump’s lawyers already have implemented the strategy in a lawsuit seeking to overturn the results of Pennsylvania, where Trump trails by 82,000 votes. In a court filing on Wednesday, his lawyers said they would ask a federal judge to either block the state from certifying the results or to declare that they were “defective” and allow the state’s Republican-led legislature to choose its own slate of electors.

A senior Biden legal adviser has dismissed the Trump litigation as “theatrics, not really lawsuits.”

Trump’s effort to enlist state lawmakers emerged after the president turned his legal efforts over to his personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, a person familiar with the effort said. Trump, the person said, “didn’t like the results and he put a guy in he knows and trusts, emulates his style.”

Asked at a news conference on Thursday if the campaign’s aim was to block state certifications so Republican lawmakers could pick electors, Giuliani laughed and said the goal was to get around what he called an “outrageous iron curtain of censorship.”

Election officials and experts believe the Trump campaign has little chance of success.

“The results in Michigan and Pennsylvania are not particularly close, and the Trump campaign has come forth with no facts or legal theory that would justify disenfranchising hundreds of thousands of voters or throwing out the election results,” said Rick Hasen, an expert on election law at the University of California, Irvine, School of Law.

“This is a dangerous though almost certainly ineffective attempt to thwart the will of the voters or to delegitimize a Biden presidency based upon false claims of a stolen election,” he said.

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Professor Elizabeth Joh teaches Intro to Constitutional Law and most of the time this is a pretty straight forward job. But with Trump in office, everything has changed. Five minutes before class Professor Joh checks Twitter to find out what the 45th President has said and how it jibes with 200 years of the judicial branch interpreting and ruling on the Constitution. Hosted by acclaimed podcaster Roman Mars (99% Invisible, co-founder Radiotopia), this show is a weekly, fun, casual Con Law 101 class that uses the tumultuous and erratic activities of the executive branch under Trump to teach us all about the US Constitution.

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Re:Hilo de USA - poder, mentiras y orden mundial
« Respuesta #146 en: Noviembre 20, 2020, 08:51:15 am »
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Georgia confirms Biden's victory in state as it completes hand audit of ballots

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Georgia confirmed Democratic President-elect Joe Biden as the winner of the Nov. 3 election in the state as it completed a hand audit of ballots on Thursday, Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger said.

The audit, launched after unofficial results showed Biden leading Republican President Donald Trump by about 14,000 out of more than 5 million votes cast, ended with Biden winning by 12,284, according to data from Raffensperger’s office.

“The audit confirmed that the original machine count accurately portrayed the winner of the election,” the secretary of state’s office said in a statement on Thursday evening.

The changes to the vote totals were “well within the expected margin of human error that occurs when hand-counting ballots,” it said.

Biden was the first Democratic presidential candidate to carry Georgia since Bill Clinton in 1992. Biden has captured 306 electoral votes to Trump’s 232 in the state-by-state Electoral College that determines the winner of the election, well above the 270 needed for victory.

Raffensperger, a Republican, is expected to formally certify Biden’s victory on Friday, despite pressure from Trump, who has claimed without evidence that there were widespread irregularities and fraud in states that he lost to Biden, including Georgia.

The state’s Republican U.S. senators, David Perdue and Kelly Loeffler, who both face runoff elections in January, have joined with Trump in accusing Raffensperger, without evidence, of overseeing a flawed election, an allegation Raffensperger has disputed.

Raffensperger told a local TV station that the Trump campaign had not produced evidence to back up its claims of fraud in the state.

“We have not seen any evidence they have given us, anything that supports - it just doesn’t show up,” Raffensperger told WSB-TV.

Trump’s campaign can still request a recount in Georgia after the results are certified because the margin of victory was less than 0.5%.


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Re:Hilo de USA - poder, mentiras y orden mundial
« Respuesta #147 en: Noviembre 20, 2020, 16:05:54 pm »
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DO TRUMP’S LAWYERS KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING?

Today several of President Trump’s lawyers, including Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell, held a press conference in which they alleged that they have convincing if not conclusive evidence that the presidential election was rigged, and that in addition to garden variety voter fraud, hundreds of thousands of votes were added to Joe Biden’s totals through electronic manipulation. This is the familiar issue that involves Dominion and SmartMatic software. Here is the press conference; it begins around an hour into the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buQCdCSDWQQ

There is circumstantial evidence of more than a normal amount of voter fraud in this year’s election, but Trump’s lawyers have not yet presented most of the evidence supporting the electronic claims that they must rely on to have any hope of reversing the outcome of the election. So we can only reserve judgment for now. It is hard to understand what motive lawyers like Sidney Powell and Lin Wood might have to make explosive claims that they cannot prove, which would be career-destroying. But how strong their evidence will ultimately be, we don’t yet know. I hope their claims turn out to be well-founded and provable.

However: I got an email today from a Minnesota resident, a conservative and a smart guy who is the CEO of a company, and later talked with him on the phone. He has taken the trouble to read the filings that have been made so far by Trump’s lawyers. He directed my attention to an affidavit signed by Russell Ramsland, a Texas resident who is an expert on cyber security. The affidavit was filed by Lin Wood in the Georgia lawsuit, but it relates entirely to Michigan, and it is a safe bet that it has been filed in one or more cases in that state as well.

The Ramsland affidavit is part of the Trump team’s case relating to Dominion. In paragraph 9, the affidavit states:

Based on the significant anomalies and red flags that we have observed, we believe there is a significant probability that election results have been manipulated within the Dominion/Premier system in Michigan.

What are those anomalies and red flags? Paragraph 11 explains:

Another statistical red flag is evident is evident in the number of votes cast compared to the number of voters in some precincts. A preliminary analysis using data obtained from the Michigan Secretary of State pinpoints a statistical anomaly so far outside of every statistical norm as to be virtually impossible. … There were at least 19 precincts where the Presidential Votes Cast compared to the Estimated Voters based on Reported Statistics exceeded 100%.

This is a screen shot of the list of 19 precincts:



Paragraph 17, continuing in the same vein, says:

Wayne County uses Dominion equipment, 46 out of 47 precincts/townships display a highly unlikely 96%+ as the number of votes cast, using the Secretary of State’s number of voters in the precinct/township; and 25% of those 47 precincts/townships show 100% turnout.

This list of 25 precincts or townships (a number that does not obviously fit with the preceding language) follows:




Here’s the problem: the townships and precincts listed in paragraphs 11 and 17 of the affidavit are not in Michigan. They are in Minnesota. Monticello, Albertville, Lake Lillian, Houston, Brownsville, Runeberg, Wolf Lake, Height of Land, Detroit Lakes, Frazee, Kandiyohi–these are all towns in Minnesota. I haven’t checked them all, but I checked a lot of them, and all locations listed in paragraphs 11 and 17 that I looked up are in Minnesota, with no corresponding township in Michigan. This would have been obvious to someone from this state, but Mr. Ramsland is a Texan and the lawyers are probably not natives of either Minnesota or Michigan.

Evidently a researcher, either Mr. Ramsland or someone working for him, was working with a database and confused “MI” for Minnesota with “MI” for Michigan. (The postal code for Minnesota is MN, while Michigan is MI, so one can see how this might happen.) So the affidavit, which addresses “anomalies and red flags” in Michigan, is based largely, and mistakenly, on data from Minnesota.

This is a catastrophic error, the kind of thing that causes a legal position to crash and burn. Trump’s lawyers are fighting an uphill battle, to put it mildly, and confusing Michigan with Minnesota will at best make the hill steeper. Credibility once lost is hard to regain. Possibly Trump’s lawyers have already discovered this appalling error, and have undertaken to correct it. But the Ramsland Affidavit was filed in Georgia just yesterday.

A postscript: has Mr. Ramsland inadvertently stumbled across evidence of voter fraud in Minnesota? I seriously doubt it. The venues in question are all in red Greater Minnesota, not in the blue urban areas where voter fraud is common.

Trump’s lawyers have not yet had their day in court, but they will have to do a great deal better than this if they hope to succeed.

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Re:Hilo de USA - poder, mentiras y orden mundial
« Respuesta #148 en: Noviembre 20, 2020, 19:43:09 pm »
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Re:Hilo de USA - poder, mentiras y orden mundial
« Respuesta #149 en: Noviembre 20, 2020, 20:59:02 pm »
Fact/checking sobre la conferencia de Giulani pero.... es de la CNN 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/19/politics/giuliani-trump-legal-team-press-briefing-fact-check/index.html

Sus argumentos parecen tan sólidos como el tinte que usa el tío. Es que además el y Trump son dolorosamente horteras.
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