Hablemos de Europa

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Alguien se va a forrar con el cambio de la libra.

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Alguien se va a forrar con el cambio de la libra.

Esto siempre es así, y prácticamente nunca tiene mayores consecuencias.

Es curioso que hemos creado mercados muy lucrativos para sacar beneficio del pánico, incentivando el meter miedo a la gente. 

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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-eurozone-wealth-idUSKCN0YV0U3?il=0

Germans get richer while southern Europe lags: study
FRANKFURT | BY JOHN O'DONNELL
The wealth disparity in the euro zone is increasing, with rising property prices helping Germans get richer while southern European countries lag behind, a study has found.

While the gap between northern countries, such as the Netherlands, and southern states like Portugal has long been a feature of the euro bloc, the study by an arm of German fund manager Flossbach von Storch shows it is getting ever wider.

Taking a basket of items including property, stocks, art and expensive wine, the research concluded that wealth in Germany and Austria jumped more than 7 percent at the end of 2015 compared to a year earlier.

That was roughly twice the growth rate of Italy and Spain, while Greeks saw their wealth drop by more than 4 percent. Property prices, which, for example, jumped by more than 6 percent in Germany, are the biggest driver of wealth.

This difference leads to political tension in the 19-member euro zone, while weak property prices in southern countries hit their banks, which hold homes and commercial property as security for loans.

"Until 2006 when the bubble burst, countries in the south were really taking off. Now they are in a Japan-like situation," said Thomas Mayer, founder of the research institute that carried out the study.

Japan has long struggled with a largely stagnant economy and ever higher government debt. Some economists fear a similar fate awaits countries in Europe.

"Countries in the north had not had such a strong inflation and came out of it better," said Mayer.

The European Central Bank has acknowledged this general trend, saying that the gap between weaker and stronger countries in the euro zone was widening rather than narrowing, as originally envisaged when the currency was created.

[Betancourt]

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-eurozone-wealth-idUSKCN0YV0U3?il=0

Germans get richer while southern Europe lags:
... the research concluded that wealth in Germany and Austria jumped more than 7 percent at the end of 2015 compared to a year earlier.

That was roughly twice the growth rate of Italy and Spain, while Greeks saw their wealth drop by more than 4 percent. Property prices, which, for example, jumped by more than 6 percent in Germany, are the biggest driver of wealth.

Los alemanes han incrementado su riqueza  porque sus casas valen más.... jodeeeerrr 

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Los alemanes han incrementado su riqueza  porque sus casas valen más.... jodeeeerrr 

a basket of items including property, stocks, art and expensive wine

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http://www.voxeurop.eu/en/content/news-brief/5092122-new-map-corruption-europe

[saturno]

http://www.voxeurop.eu/en/content/news-brief/5092122-new-map-corruption-europe

Es curioso hacer un mapa de la corrupción segmentado por...  Estados (de derecho),

Si bajaran a escala regional incluso administrativa, ya seria más interesante.
Tirando una recta desde el Adriático (partiendo del norte de Croacia) hasta la punta de Galicia, incluyendo el cacho  correspondiente de Francia, ḿe convencería más.

[rain dog]

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-eurozone-wealth-idUSKCN0YV0U3?il=0

Germans get richer while southern Europe lags:
... the research concluded that wealth in Germany and Austria jumped more than 7 percent at the end of 2015 compared to a year earlier.

That was roughly twice the growth rate of Italy and Spain, while Greeks saw their wealth drop by more than 4 percent. Property prices, which, for example, jumped by more than 6 percent in Germany, are the biggest driver of wealth.

Los alemanes han incrementado su riqueza  porque sus casas valen más.... jodeeeerrr 

Sí, pero además es que tal y como lo cuenta el anglo, parece que la culpa de que el sur de Europa no crezca, la tenga que crezca el norte.

Como de costumbre, ellos metiendo cizaña. Lo mejor sería que su Brexit ocurriera finalmente.

Ocurre lo mismo con cierta región en España. Pero me da que ni uno, ni otro.

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Sí, pero además es que tal y como lo cuenta el anglo, parece que la culpa de que el sur de Europa no crezca, la tenga que crezca el norte.

Es un estudio alemán.

Como de costumbre, ellos metiendo cizaña. Lo mejor sería que su Brexit ocurriera finalmente.

Ocurre lo mismo con cierta región en España. Pero me da que ni uno, ni otro.

Salimos de dudas en dos semanas.

EDITO: Por cierto, este mismo sentimiento lo tiene bastante gente al parecer http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36474334

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum-poll-brexit-leave-campaign-10-point-lead-remain-boris-johnson-nigel-farage-david-a7075131.html

EU Referendum: Massive swing to Brexit – with just 13 days to go

Exclusive: polling carried out for ‘The Independent’ shows that 55 per cent of UK voters intend to vote for Britain to leave the EU in the 23 June referendum 

The campaign to take Britain out of the EU has opened up a remarkable 10-point lead over the Remain camp, according to an exclusive poll for The Independent.

The survey of 2,000 people by ORB found that 55 per cent believe the UK should leave the EU (up four points since our last poll in April), while 45 per cent want it to remain (down four points). These figures are weighted to take account of people’s likelihood to vote. It is by far the biggest lead the Leave camp has enjoyed since ORB began polling the EU issue for The Independent a year ago, when it was Remain who enjoyed a 10-point lead. Now the tables have turned.

Even when the findings are not weighted for turnout, Leave is on 53 per cent (up three points since April) and Remain on 47 per cent (down three). The online poll, taken on Wednesday and Thursday, suggests the Out camp has achieved momentum at the critical time ahead of the 23 June referendum.

Differential turnout could prove crucial. ORB found that 78 per cent of Leave supporters say they will definitely vote – describing themselves as a “10” on a scale of 0-10, while only 66 per cent of Remain supporters say the same.

The results will heighten fears in the Remain campaign that it is losing ground among Labour supporters, who are seen as critical to securing victory for it.  According to ORB, 56 per cent of people who voted for Labour at last year’s general election now back Remain when turnout is taken into account, but a dangerously high 44 per cent support Leave. Only 38 per cent of Tory voters endorse David Cameron’s stance by backing Remain, while 62 per cent support Leave.

Many people seem ready to vote for Brexit even though the poll shows they believe it involves some risk and think the economy is more important than immigration – widely seen as the Leave camp’s trump card.

The one crumb of comfort for the Remain camp is that when people were asked to predict the referendum result, the average figures were 52 per cent for Remain and 48 per cent for Leave. This “wisdom of the crowd” polling proved accurate during Ireland’s referendum on gay marriage last year.

The ORB survey highlights the stark generational differences over the EU. Seven out of 10 people aged 18-24 back Remain and 30 per cent Leave. Support for Leave rises up the age scale to 64 per cent among those aged 55 and over (figures weighted for turnout). Crucially,  just over half (56 per cent) of 18-24 year-olds say they will definitely vote, compared to more than 80 per cent of those aged 55 and over.

Support for EU membership is highest in Scotland, with 60 per cent backing Remain. But a majority of people in every other region of Great Britain favour withdrawal when turnout is taken into account. In London, seen as a strong area for the Remain campaign, only 44 per cent back staying in the EU and 56 per cent favour voting to leave. This is due to the turnout factor. Only 66 per cent of people in London say they will definitely vote, the lowest of any region.

However, warnings about the economic impact of Brexit appear to have hit home. According to ORB, eight out of 10 people – and of Conservative voters – think leaving the EU would pose some risk, and only 19 per cent think it would pose no risk at all. But a majority of both groups are still prepared to take the risk.

Similarly, 52 per cent of people agree with the statement that the economy is a bigger issue than immigration when considering how to vote in the referendum, while 37 per cent disagree.

Seven out of 10 people think the campaign has been too negative so far, while only 15 per cent disagree. The Leave camp will see this finding as a sign that what it has dubbed Remain’s “Project Fear” has not worked.

Four out of 10 people believe that whatever the referendum result, it will not have much impact on their everyday life, but more people (44 per cent) disagree with this statement.

Polling experts say the result is still too close to call, and that there has been a late swing to the “status quo” option in previous referendums, including the one on Scottish independence in 2014. They also point out that telephone polls consistently give Remain a higher rating than online surveys.

Should the UK remain a member of the EU or leave the EU?

Weighted for turnout
Now       April
Remain   45 per cent   49 per cent
Leave   55 per cent   51 per cent
 

Headline Figure (not weighted for turnout)
Now       April
Remain   47 per cent   50 per cent
Leave   53 per cent   50 per cent
 

What people think the result will be (average prediction)

Remain   52 per cent
Leave   48 per cent
 

How much of a risk do you think leaving the EU would pose?

A great deal of risk   26 per cent
Some risk   55 per cent
No risk at all   19 per cent
 

When considering how to vote, the economy is a bigger issue than immigration

Agree   52 per cent
Disagree   37 per cent
Don't know   11 per cent
 

Whether we decide to leave the EU or to remain, the result won't have much impact on my daily life

Agree   40 per cent
Disagree   44 per cent
Don't know   17 per cent
 

I feel the campaign so far has been too negative

Agree   69 per cent
Disagree   15 per cent
Don't know   15 per cent

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Un pelín alarmista Donald Tusk: 

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-tusk-idUSKCN0YZ0Q9

[wanderer]

Últimas tendencias sobre el brexit:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum-poll-brexit-lead-ipsos-mori-who-will-win-leave-campaign-remain-european-union-a7084951.html

https://ig.ft.com/sites/brexit-polling/

[wanderer]

Entrevista a Putin:

http://www.republica.com/2016/06/18/putin-si-la-otan-se-rearma-nos-veremos-obligados-a-responder/

[breades]

Algunos ya lo habrán visto, para los que no, esta semana Trevijano y Centeno se han liado la manta a la cabeza y han dado una conferencia en Bruselas (en un club privado, supuestamente a miembros influyentes de las instituciones de la UE) para hablar sobre el R78 uno y las falsas cifras el otro. Al mismo tiempo han enviado cartas a dirigentes de la UE (Juncker, Moscovici, etc...) y a periodistas de distintos medios europeos con el resultado (de momento) de que a Ambrosio, del Telegraph, le han hecho padre a escasos días del plebiscito en el RU y de las generales en España, con lo que es bastante probable que publique algo con sustancia en los próximos días.

 

[wanderer]

Algunos ya lo habrán visto, para los que no, esta semana Trevijano y Centeno se han liado la manta a la cabeza y han dado una conferencia en Bruselas (en un club privado, supuestamente a miembros influyentes de las instituciones de la UE) para hablar sobre el R78 uno y las falsas cifras el otro. Al mismo tiempo han enviado cartas a dirigentes de la UE (Juncker, Moscovici, etc...) y a periodistas de distintos medios europeos con el resultado (de momento) de que a Ambrosio, del Telegraph, le han hecho padre a escasos días del plebiscito en el RU y de las generales en España, con lo que es bastante probable que publique algo con sustancia en los próximos días.

Pues el susodicho ambrosio, y porqué opta por el brexit:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/06/12/brexit-vote-is-about-the-supremacy-of-parliament-and-nothing-els/

De todos modos, subscribo la postura de Chosen al respecto; en general, los partidarios del brexit, bajo la excusa de preservación de los valores democráticos, son casi todos ellos de lo más reaccionario y cavernario (PDM's en versión british, que diría yo).