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Y aún nos creeremos que hay una guerra soterrada entre Europa y los EEUU. Para nada, igual que los USA les vino de maravilla la bajada de rating para poder inflacionar, devaluar, y exportar, por mucha parafernalia que montó Obama también rasgándose las vestiduras, para los europeos estas bajadas de rating decretadas ayer por S&P nos vienen de maravilla para poder avanzar en la construcción europea, por muchos gritos al cielo que veamos estos días. No se da puntada sin hilo.
Respuesta del BCE al rebajón -al de S&P, que por ahora es el único -.http://www.eleconomista.es/economia/noticias/3669022/01/12/El-BCE-califica-de-golpe-arrollador-la-rebaja-de-SP.htmlNo me debe de funcionar bien el mecanismo lógico, porque no veo yo a Italia al mismo nivel que Kazajstan, que es lo que plantea S&P. ¿Otro ataque anglo, a ver si hace algún efecto? ¿Pura rabieta?El Banco Central Europeo (BCE) ha calificado de "golpe arrollador" la decisión de la agencia de rating Standard & Poor's de rebajar la calificación de la deuda de nueve países de la eurozona, con un efecto particularmente "problemático" en Italia, dadas las importantes necesidades de refinanciación del país transalpino, según el gobernador del Banco Central de Austria y miembro de la junta de Gobierno del BCE, Ewald Nowotny.Preguntado sobre si Italia puede ser considerado el "principal niño problemático" de la eurozona, Nowotny indicó que "en cierto sentido, lo es", según declaró en comentarios a una emisora de radio austriaca tras la decisión de S&P de rebajar en dos escalones la calificación de deuda hasta el grado BBB+, que ahora comparte con países como Kazajistán."Sabemos que Italia va a necesitar una cantidad significativa de refinanciación a lo largo de este año y sus bancos también. En tiempos normales, se puede hacer. Pero en momentos tan difíciles e inquietos puede ser un problema, y en mi opinión esta importante degradación de Italia es uno de los aspectos más difíciles y problemáticos de este golpe arrollador de las agencias de calificación", explicó.
Cita de: Urederra en Enero 14, 2012, 10:53:25 amY aún nos creeremos que hay una guerra soterrada entre Europa y los EEUU. Para nada, igual que los USA les vino de maravilla la bajada de rating para poder inflacionar, devaluar, y exportar, por mucha parafernalia que montó Obama también rasgándose las vestiduras, para los europeos estas bajadas de rating decretadas ayer por S&P nos vienen de maravilla para poder avanzar en la construcción europea, por muchos gritos al cielo que veamos estos días. No se da puntada sin hilo.últimamente pienso lo mismo. Estas bajadas de rating nos vienen de maravilla para poder avanzar en la construcción europea, como dices,..y para tomar medidas que se van cargando la Europa social, (que no comunista ni similares) que algún día creimos que era el camino.No soy objetiva, me pasa como a Tomasjos, que el "estilo anglo" me produce urticaria, pero todo esto cada vez me gusta menos.Starkiller, manifiestate!
En USA por ejemplo hay una interesante rivalidad entre grandes fortunas tradicionales (JASP)
White Anglo-Saxon Protestant or WASP is an informal term, often derogatory or disparaging, for a closed group of high-status Americans mostly of British Protestant ancestry. The group supposedly wields disproportionate financial and social power.
Que La City es clara aliada de los magnates Bancarios de USA es un hecho, pero ahora mismo tiene que velar por sus propios intereses.
La fusión de las bolsas de Nueva York y Fráncfort sigue adelanteEl Departamento de Justicia estadounidense ha dado su visto bueno a la operación que supone, en la práctica, la compra de la operadora de Wall Street (NYSE Euronext) por parte de la de Fráncfort (Deustche Börse).Una fusión para crear el mayor parqué del mundo con 9.000 millones de dólares (unos 6.900 millones de euros) y 7.000 empleados.El simbólico bastión del capitalismo estará ahora en manos alemanas.
The New York Stock Exchange, a symbol of American capitalism for more than two centuries, may soon have new owners — in Europe.The exchange, facing pressure from electronic upstarts that have taken business away from it, said on Wednesday that it was in advanced talks on a merger with the operator of the Frankfurt Stock Exchange. A deal would create the world’s largest financial market, with a presence in 14 European countries as well as the United States.A merger would potentially let customers trade stocks in New York, options tied to those shares in Paris and derivatives linked to them in Frankfurt.A combination, after the mergers of other exchanges, would be another illustration of how globalization and technology have changed marketplaces. The New York Stock Exchange is a giant among exchanges, yet in a world of around-the-clock trading and rapid-fire algorithmic programs, its significance to investors has diminished. Once known for chief executives who were prominent cheerleaders for the stock market, the exchange now has a more muted public presence.While the ringing of the opening bell every morning and images of anxious or joyful workers on the trading floor represent the stock market to millions of people, increasingly trades are being executed by computers far from Wall Street, in places like Jersey City and Kansas City.The Big Board has already undergone a radical transformation in just a few years: from a clubby nonprofit organization where brokers on the floor handled most trades to a profit-making multinational corporation engaged in largely electronic trading. Some 1,300 equities and options traders now work on the floor of the exchange, down from nearly 3,000 a decade ago. As a public company, its stock price has slumped 64 percent from a high in 2006.So while news of the merger negotiations was the talk of Wall Street on Wednesday, some had already accepted that further change was needed.“You probably need more consolidation,” said Barry Smith, 44, a financial technology executive, who sat drinking beer with two friends at Bobby Van’s Steakhouse and Grill across the street from the exchange.Under the terms being negotiated, the New York Stock Exchange — which began in 1792 when brokers gathered beneath a buttonwood tree in Lower Manhattan to trade five securities of the new nation — would still have a headquarters in Manhattan. But the Deutsche Börse would own as much as 60 percent of the new company, which would be incorporated in the Netherlands.If a deal is reached, it could still face several hurdles, including regulatory and political resistance. New York City leaders have been particularly vocal about maintaining the city’s status as the leading financial capital.Competition among exchanges has grown more intense in recent years as investors seeking speed, lower costs and greater liquidity have flocked to electronic platforms that pay little heed to financial centers or tradition. Exchanges are under pressure to get bigger to cut costs and invest in technology that will allow them to host as many transactions as quickly as possible.“There is a race toward exchanges becoming ever bigger,” said Elie Darwish, an analyst at Exane BNP Paribas in Paris. “This would give NYSE Euronext-Deutsche Börse an unchallengeable position.”Much of the $411 million in expected cost savings from a combination of the New York Exchange and the Deutsch Börse is expected to come from combining the two companies’ technology systems and back-office operations. Fewer than 1,000 job cuts are expected, with less than 100 in New York, said a person briefed on the matter who spoke anonymously because he was not authorized to discuss it.Still, a merger could raise l questions about the importance of the exchange to the vitality of the financial industry in New York. The role of the exchange’s professionals on the floor may become more limited as a result.Michael Pagano, a professor at the Villanova School of Business, said those floor specialists could help during times of market stress like the “flash crash” of May. “They could become something like the Maytag repairman,” he said. “He doesn’t necessarily do anything all day, but he’s there when you need him.”The joint statement by the two companies closely followed the announcement of an all-stock merger of the London Stock Exchange and the Toronto Stock Exchange.While NYSE Euronext and Deutsche Börse confirmed that they were in “advanced discussions” about a deal, they cautioned that the talks might still fall apart. Deutsche Börse has a history of trying to merge with other exchanges, including the Big Board and the London Stock Exchange, without success.Still, a merger could be announced as soon as the middle of next week, according to the person briefed on the matter. NYSE Euronext shareholders are expected to receive a roughly 10 percent premium to their shares, this person added.The last six years have yielded several big exchange unions, including the Chicago Mercantile Exchange’s purchases of the Chicago Board of Trade and Nymex Holdings and the Singapore exchange’s proposed acquisition of the Australian Stock Exchange.NYSE Euronext itself is the product of the New York Stock Exchange’s takeovers of Archipelago Holdings, which gave it an electronic trading platform, Euronext and the American Stock Exchange.Wednesday’s announcements will probably put additional pressure on smaller players, like the Nasdaq stock market, to seek additional partners to keep up.Deutsche Börse’s chief executive, Reto Francioni, would serve as chairman from Frankfurt. Duncan L. Niederauer, the chief executive of NYSE Euronext, would serve the same role for the combined company, whose name has not been determined. The names of the local markets, including the New York Stock Exchange, would remain, in part to try to mitigate political backlash.NYSE Euronext and Deutsche Börse held merger talks twice before, in 2008 and 2009, before resuming discussions again late last year, according to the person briefed on the matter.David Jolly and Colin Moynihan contributed reporting.
CitarEn USA por ejemplo hay una interesante rivalidad entre grandes fortunas tradicionales (JASP)¿Tal vez querías decir W.A.S.P.? (White Anglo-Saxon Protestant) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Anglo-Saxon_Protestanthttp://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Anglo-Saxon_ProtestantCitarWhite Anglo-Saxon Protestant or WASP is an informal term, often derogatory or disparaging, for a closed group of high-status Americans mostly of British Protestant ancestry. The group supposedly wields disproportionate financial and social power.
CitarQue La City es clara aliada de los magnates Bancarios de USA es un hecho, pero ahora mismo tiene que velar por sus propios intereses.Y a este respecto qué opinas de la fusión de la bolsa de Wall Street con la Bolsa de Frankfurt.... http://www.transicionestructural.net/the-big-picture/el-new-york-stock-exchange-y-la-bolsa-de-frankfurt-de-fusionan/CitarLa fusión de las bolsas de Nueva York y Fráncfort sigue adelanteEl Departamento de Justicia estadounidense ha dado su visto bueno a la operación que supone, en la práctica, la compra de la operadora de Wall Street (NYSE Euronext) por parte de la de Fráncfort (Deustche Börse).Una fusión para crear el mayor parqué del mundo con 9.000 millones de dólares (unos 6.900 millones de euros) y 7.000 empleados.El simbólico bastión del capitalismo estará ahora en manos alemanas.http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/02/09/nyse-euronext-and-deutsche-borse-in-merger-talks/(Interesante también la tabla de grandes fusiones que dan al final de este artículo que ilustra muy bien el proceso de concentración del capital que da lugar a trusts/oligopolios...)CitarThe New York Stock Exchange, a symbol of American capitalism for more than two centuries, may soon have new owners — in Europe.The exchange, facing pressure from electronic upstarts that have taken business away from it, said on Wednesday that it was in advanced talks on a merger with the operator of the Frankfurt Stock Exchange. A deal would create the world’s largest financial market, with a presence in 14 European countries as well as the United States.A merger would potentially let customers trade stocks in New York, options tied to those shares in Paris and derivatives linked to them in Frankfurt.A combination, after the mergers of other exchanges, would be another illustration of how globalization and technology have changed marketplaces. The New York Stock Exchange is a giant among exchanges, yet in a world of around-the-clock trading and rapid-fire algorithmic programs, its significance to investors has diminished. Once known for chief executives who were prominent cheerleaders for the stock market, the exchange now has a more muted public presence.While the ringing of the opening bell every morning and images of anxious or joyful workers on the trading floor represent the stock market to millions of people, increasingly trades are being executed by computers far from Wall Street, in places like Jersey City and Kansas City.The Big Board has already undergone a radical transformation in just a few years: from a clubby nonprofit organization where brokers on the floor handled most trades to a profit-making multinational corporation engaged in largely electronic trading. Some 1,300 equities and options traders now work on the floor of the exchange, down from nearly 3,000 a decade ago. As a public company, its stock price has slumped 64 percent from a high in 2006.So while news of the merger negotiations was the talk of Wall Street on Wednesday, some had already accepted that further change was needed.“You probably need more consolidation,” said Barry Smith, 44, a financial technology executive, who sat drinking beer with two friends at Bobby Van’s Steakhouse and Grill across the street from the exchange.Under the terms being negotiated, the New York Stock Exchange — which began in 1792 when brokers gathered beneath a buttonwood tree in Lower Manhattan to trade five securities of the new nation — would still have a headquarters in Manhattan. But the Deutsche Börse would own as much as 60 percent of the new company, which would be incorporated in the Netherlands.If a deal is reached, it could still face several hurdles, including regulatory and political resistance. New York City leaders have been particularly vocal about maintaining the city’s status as the leading financial capital.Competition among exchanges has grown more intense in recent years as investors seeking speed, lower costs and greater liquidity have flocked to electronic platforms that pay little heed to financial centers or tradition. Exchanges are under pressure to get bigger to cut costs and invest in technology that will allow them to host as many transactions as quickly as possible.“There is a race toward exchanges becoming ever bigger,” said Elie Darwish, an analyst at Exane BNP Paribas in Paris. “This would give NYSE Euronext-Deutsche Börse an unchallengeable position.”Much of the $411 million in expected cost savings from a combination of the New York Exchange and the Deutsch Börse is expected to come from combining the two companies’ technology systems and back-office operations. Fewer than 1,000 job cuts are expected, with less than 100 in New York, said a person briefed on the matter who spoke anonymously because he was not authorized to discuss it.Still, a merger could raise l questions about the importance of the exchange to the vitality of the financial industry in New York. The role of the exchange’s professionals on the floor may become more limited as a result.Michael Pagano, a professor at the Villanova School of Business, said those floor specialists could help during times of market stress like the “flash crash” of May. “They could become something like the Maytag repairman,” he said. “He doesn’t necessarily do anything all day, but he’s there when you need him.”The joint statement by the two companies closely followed the announcement of an all-stock merger of the London Stock Exchange and the Toronto Stock Exchange.While NYSE Euronext and Deutsche Börse confirmed that they were in “advanced discussions” about a deal, they cautioned that the talks might still fall apart. Deutsche Börse has a history of trying to merge with other exchanges, including the Big Board and the London Stock Exchange, without success.Still, a merger could be announced as soon as the middle of next week, according to the person briefed on the matter. NYSE Euronext shareholders are expected to receive a roughly 10 percent premium to their shares, this person added.The last six years have yielded several big exchange unions, including the Chicago Mercantile Exchange’s purchases of the Chicago Board of Trade and Nymex Holdings and the Singapore exchange’s proposed acquisition of the Australian Stock Exchange.NYSE Euronext itself is the product of the New York Stock Exchange’s takeovers of Archipelago Holdings, which gave it an electronic trading platform, Euronext and the American Stock Exchange.Wednesday’s announcements will probably put additional pressure on smaller players, like the Nasdaq stock market, to seek additional partners to keep up.Deutsche Börse’s chief executive, Reto Francioni, would serve as chairman from Frankfurt. Duncan L. Niederauer, the chief executive of NYSE Euronext, would serve the same role for the combined company, whose name has not been determined. The names of the local markets, including the New York Stock Exchange, would remain, in part to try to mitigate political backlash.NYSE Euronext and Deutsche Börse held merger talks twice before, in 2008 and 2009, before resuming discussions again late last year, according to the person briefed on the matter.David Jolly and Colin Moynihan contributed reporting.
Para UK el tema de la City es clave no por el PIB que genera en sí misma, sino porque ahora mismo los servicios financieros son de lo poco que genera saldo neto positivo (y gordo) en la balanza comercial, si la pierden no podrían aguantar su posición de cuenta corriente salvoe xportando millones de ciudadanos a las "colonias", que no parece fácil, o encontrando 40 GB de petróleo en aguas inglesas, que las escocesas tampoco valen. Por cierto,sobre el Mar de Irlanda he leído que hay importantes reservas,pero tampoco a Inglaterra le toca mucho.Se pueden quedar en 52M de personas metidas en un espacio realmente enano, ignorados por Europa, mucha inventiva y mala baba les hará falta para salir del agujero si los astros se conjuran contra ellos.
La situación económica de Europa es un "muy grave", dijo el presidente del Banco Central Europeo, Mario Draghi, hablando en calidad de jefe europeo del super-organismo de control recientemente creado."Estamos en un estado extremadamente grave y no hay que avergonzarse de este hecho", dijo Draghi ante el Comité de Asuntos Económicos y Monetarios del Parlamento Europeo."Durante los últimos meses de 2011, la incertidumbre sobre la sostenibilidad de algunos estados y la resistencia del sistema financiero, junto con las tristes perspectivas de crecimiento, han llevado a graves perturbaciones en el funcionamiento normal de los mercados financieros y la economía real. En un intento de contrarrestar esta situación, las autoridades han actuado", agregó.
La agencia reduce la nota desde AAA hasta AA+ tras la retirada de la triple A a Francia. -La rebaja complica la financiación del fondo
Londres ha ganado la partida: se convertirá en el centro financiero no asiático que negocie los productos denominados en yuanes fuera del gigante.
¿Por ahí hablábais de la City y Asia?CitarLondres ha ganado la partida: se convertirá en el centro financiero no asiático que negocie los productos denominados en yuanes fuera del gigante.http://www.expansion.com/2012/01/16/mercados/divisas/1326727566.html?a=bf9d1bf77a2cf18c277eca6ea17b35ec&t=1326730628